DavidN10 (Ohio)
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Posted:
Hello all,
Our HOA declarations include a statement that all commercial businesses must close by 11pm every night. Several years ago, a new owner purchased a commercial business in order to open a bar, but "did not realize" that declaration was in place. Ever since, it's been a fight to get the hours extended to either 1am or 2am every night rather than 11pm.
The declarations also state that any changes to the declarations require a 75% vote in order to pass. We've voted FOUR times on this:
2013: 9-8 (52%, fail)
2014: 7-11 (38%, fail)
2015: 11-7 (61%, fail)
2017: 11-5 (69%, fail)
(Those numbers don't always add up to 18, because sometimes we have had 1-2 delinquent units ineligible to vote.)
I understand the 75% requirement is in order to protect the HOA from itself in the short term. But at what point are we shooting ourselves in the foot over the long term?? Our declarations were written in 2005, at a time when there was a lot of crime and not a lot of businesses in our area. That is changing rapidly. We're on a corner...there's not a lot of room for "night life" on the East-West street, but the North-South street is primed to explode over the next 5-10 years. FOUR new "night life" businesses have opened within TWO blocks of us, in the last two years, in locations where there was previously nothing at all.
For now we seem to be "stuck" in this position where a majority wants to allow this bylaw change, but the remaining 5 sticklers can continue to obstruct the situation indefinitely. Two of them don't even live in the building, and I wonder what their motivation is to vote "no," because it's my understanding that bars are generally good for property value on a corner where drug dealers and prostitutes would otherwise be present.
The board (who voted 3-2 in favor of the measure)
Is there a way to change the 11pm declaration, or suspend it indefinitely, without a 75% vote? Or do we need to just wait until the bar owner CAN pass the 75% vote?
Thanks in advance!
~David
Our HOA declarations include a statement that all commercial businesses must close by 11pm every night. Several years ago, a new owner purchased a commercial business in order to open a bar, but "did not realize" that declaration was in place. Ever since, it's been a fight to get the hours extended to either 1am or 2am every night rather than 11pm.
The declarations also state that any changes to the declarations require a 75% vote in order to pass. We've voted FOUR times on this:
2013: 9-8 (52%, fail)
2014: 7-11 (38%, fail)
2015: 11-7 (61%, fail)
2017: 11-5 (69%, fail)
(Those numbers don't always add up to 18, because sometimes we have had 1-2 delinquent units ineligible to vote.)
I understand the 75% requirement is in order to protect the HOA from itself in the short term. But at what point are we shooting ourselves in the foot over the long term?? Our declarations were written in 2005, at a time when there was a lot of crime and not a lot of businesses in our area. That is changing rapidly. We're on a corner...there's not a lot of room for "night life" on the East-West street, but the North-South street is primed to explode over the next 5-10 years. FOUR new "night life" businesses have opened within TWO blocks of us, in the last two years, in locations where there was previously nothing at all.
For now we seem to be "stuck" in this position where a majority wants to allow this bylaw change, but the remaining 5 sticklers can continue to obstruct the situation indefinitely. Two of them don't even live in the building, and I wonder what their motivation is to vote "no," because it's my understanding that bars are generally good for property value on a corner where drug dealers and prostitutes would otherwise be present.
The board (who voted 3-2 in favor of the measure)
Is there a way to change the 11pm declaration, or suspend it indefinitely, without a 75% vote? Or do we need to just wait until the bar owner CAN pass the 75% vote?
Thanks in advance!
~David