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ElizabethP6 (New Mexico)
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What responsibilities does a developer have in a developer-controlled HOA in NM?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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Whatever the developer wants. You the owner do not own the HOA yet. The developer does. It's pretty much their show till they turn it over to you the owners. However, if they promise certain things like a pool or other amenities by turnover, then they most likely have to produce that.

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TimB4 (Tennessee)
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 08/10/2017 4:35 PM

Whatever the developer wants. You the owner do not own the HOA yet.

WRONG

The members are part of the Association.
There is no ownership, but if there was, by being an owner, they are partial owners of the Association.

The issue is control.

The developer typically has, per the governing documents, the voting power to name the board and (often) amend the governing documents. Procedures must still be followed and members of the Association get a vote. However, since the developer normally controls the voting power, they can basically do what they desire. At some point in time, as more units/properties are sold, that power will shift to the membership. When the tipping point is reached the control of the Association is transferred to the membership and there is typically a transition of all the records, etc.
ElizabethP6 (New Mexico)
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I have a developer that owns 33 lots out of 65. I've only found information about what is required in order to transition control to the HOA.

Some unofficial sources suggest the possibility of paying for snow removal, maintaining undeveloped properties (mowing), paying for HOA insurance, etc.

JanetB2 (Colorado)
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Posted By ElizabethP6 on 08/10/2017 4:28 PM
What responsibilities does a developer have in a developer-controlled HOA in NM?

LOL ... Like Tim I do not like individuals stating "whatever a developer wants". Sorry ... the Developer is required to follow the law! I do not understand why so many believe a developer can implement a contract and choose anything under the sun they want to have in that contract ... and then potentially VIOLATE both Homeowners and their Secured Creditors after they invest based on what had been implied and expressed.

Your NM HOA statutes can be found here:

http://law.justia.com/codes/new-mexico/2013/chapter-47/article-7e

Developer control of Board states:

2013 New Mexico Statutes
Chapter 47 - Property Law
Article 7E - Homeowner Association
Section 47-7E-8 - Declarant control of board. (2013)

Universal Citation: NM Stat ยง 47-7E-8 (2013)

47-7E-8. Declarant control of board. (2013)
A. Subject to the provisions of this section, the declaration shall provide for a period of declarant control of the association, during which period a declarant, or persons designated by the declarant, may appoint and remove the officers and members of the board.
B. Regardless of the period provided in the declaration, the period of declarant control shall terminate no later than the earlier of:
(1) sixty days after conveyance of seventy-five percent of the lots that are part of the development and any additional lots that may be added to the development to lot owners other than a declarant;
(2) two years after all declarants have ceased to offer lots for sale in the ordinary course of business;
(3) two years after a development right to add new lots was last exercised; or
(4) the day that the declarant or the declarant's designee, after giving written notice to the association, records an instrument voluntarily terminating all rights to declarant control.
C. Subsection B of this section does not apply to a master planned community.
D. A declarant may voluntarily terminate the right to appoint and remove officers and members of the board before termination of the period of declarant control, but in that event, the declarant may require, for the duration of the period of declarant control, that specified actions of the association or board, as described in a recorded instrument executed by the declarant, be approved by the declarant or the declarant's designee before they become effective.
E. Not later than sixty days after conveyance of twenty-five percent of the lots that are part of the development, and any additional lots that may be added to the development, to lot owners other than a declarant, at least one member and not less than twenty-five percent of the members of the board shall be elected by lot owners.
F. Not later than sixty days after conveyance of fifty percent of the lots that are part of the development, and any additional lot that may be added to the development, to lot owners other than the declarant, no less than thirty-three percent of the members of the board shall be elected by lot owners other than the declarant.
G. Not later than the termination of a period of declarant control, the lot owners shall elect a board of at least three members, at least a majority of whom shall be lot owners. The board shall elect the officers. The board members and officers shall take office upon election.
H. No amendment to the declaration that would limit, prohibit or eliminate the exercise of a development right shall be effective without the concurrence of the declarant.
I. A declarant shall not utilize cumulative or class voting for the purpose of evading any limitation imposed on declarants by the Homeowner Association Act, nor shall lots constitute a class because they are owned by a declarant.
History: Laws 2013, ch. 122, ยง 8.

The above section (B)(3) is important as is similar to my state and I was in lawsuit with a developer on this issue and more. Essentially if your developer does not own other surrounding property where they can add new lots not already platted to the HOA (and reserved in the CCR's as a declarant / developer right), then potentially two years after the developer filed the final plat and CCR's he is supposed to release control of the HOA to the Owners.

As far as other developer responsibilities and rights those will be found in your CCR's and State Laws. I recommend printing extra copies of Governing Documents and your State Laws and put into a binder. Then read ... when you see the word Developer or Declarant take a highlighter (for mine I used orange highlighter) and highlight those words. That will help you in better seeing and understanding your developers rights vs owner rights. Keep in mind that is knowledge ... and "Knowledge is Power". When my last developer would try to pull any more trash after our lawsuit ... all I had to do was send an email with the CCR or Law violations to get them back on track. Initially they would have their attorney argue with me, but when I pushed back and said we can "again" have a Court of Law decide they would back down. After a while they finally stopped wasting their money on their idiot attorney.

AnthonyS5 (Florida)
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In Florida, (Chapter 720) The statute is clear that at fifty percent conveyance, members other than the developer can vote an owner member to the majority controlled developer board. At ninety percent they must within ninety days the developer must turn majority control of the association to its members. Granted the developer still has voting power. As far as "control" and "Doing what they please" unfortunately that is usually what happens in developer controlled associations. As long as the law is followed this is the case. Contracting certain vendors is a major "control" thing developers have which is something I am against as usually the hiring of these vendors comes at a higher cost to the members. In retrospect, In the end sadly though, developers do have the power while building homes and in control. The hope to owner members is the developer builds and selsl fast enough so that control shifts to the owners who finally get to make the decisions.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
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Posted By AnthonyS5 on 08/12/2017 3:03 AM
In Florida, (Chapter 720) The statute is clear that at fifty percent conveyance, members other than the developer can vote an owner member to the majority controlled developer board. At ninety percent they must within ninety days the developer must turn majority control of the association to its members. Granted the developer still has voting power. As far as "control" and "Doing what they please" unfortunately that is usually what happens in developer controlled associations. As long as the law is followed this is the case. Contracting certain vendors is a major "control" thing developers have which is something I am against as usually the hiring of these vendors comes at a higher cost to the members. In retrospect, In the end sadly though, developers do have the power while building homes and in control. The hope to owner members is the developer builds and selsl fast enough so that control shifts to the owners who finally get to make the decisions.

Keep in mind your are from FL and the OP is from NM. Potentially you should not quote other State Laws to an OP from another state as that can confuse the issue. Also, keep in mind FL is a state which allows excessive developer controls which many other states would deem as illegal. My state HOA laws are derived from UCIOA (Uniform Common Interest Ownership Act) and therefore will be similar to other states who have also based theirs on the same. What I posted above to the OP is similar to my state. In states who utilize UCIOA the developer "MUST" reserve items they want to change and disclose to the Consumer and Secured Creditors. My state prohibits a Grantor (a.k.a. Developer) selling property to a Grantee (a.k.a. Consumer) from changing a Contract (a.k.a. CCR's) at "will". It potentially is a crime under "Real Estate Fraud". After all why should a developer "reel" in consumers and secured creditors to invest large sums of money to only turn around and "defraud" them by unilaterally changing a contract? I am in favor of states who utilize UCIOA because it tries damn hard to protect everyone equally ... Consumers, Developers, Secured Creditors, etc.
AnthonyS5 (Florida)
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Janet,

That is why I started by saying "In Florida". I replied in order to give insight as to how it is another state, there is nothing confusing here. This is an open forum to discuss and share information. It is most common that developers while under control of the HOA get to make the decisions for it's community and association, thank you.
DouglasK1 (Florida)
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Posted By ElizabethP6 on 08/10/2017 6:34 PM
I have a developer that owns 33 lots out of 65. I've only found information about what is required in order to transition control to the HOA.

Some unofficial sources suggest the possibility of paying for snow removal, maintaining undeveloped properties (mowing), paying for HOA insurance, etc.

I don't know if there are an NM specific laws about this, but even under developer control, the HOA is generally responsible for these things. They developer controlled association typically collects assessments/dues from the owners and uses those to help defray the cost of meeting the association's responsibilities.

If you're suggesting that the developer should be paying entirely for common expenses with no contribution from the owners, that would be unusual, but I can't speak specifically about NM. Of the items you've listed above, I would expect snow removal and HOA insurance to be common expenses the owners would contribute to. I assume the developer owns the undeveloped properties, so the developer really should be paying for maintaining those.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
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Let us try a boil the this down to a simple example and get opinions.

An HOA with two streets and still under developer control.

On one street homes were built with owners living in them, and their dues cover snow plowing.

On the other street the developer is building homes but no homes are sold yet.

There is a snow storm and both streets get plowed at the same time by the same company.

Who should have paid for what?
DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
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John,

I'll take a stab. The HOA is responsible for plowing all streets. In the beginning, before any homes are sold, the only source of $$ for the association is the developer, and they will need to pay enough to plow all of the streets, assuming it's even needed. Plowing might not be the best example, as streets with no homes or construction activity might not need to be plowed. As homes are sold, an increasing amount of assessment revenue means the owners will be covering an increasing percentage of the costs. When the association is 50% sold (your case above), the collected dues might be enough to plow both streets, or possibly not enough to even plow one, it just depends on how the developer has set dues. If they are artificially low to attract buyers, then the developer might still be paying more than half the money the association requires to meet its needs. If the dues are higher than really needed, then the developer won't need to kick in as much.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
RickK3 (Tennessee)
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Our Association is located in Eastern Tennessee. The Declarant was to turn over the Association to the homeowners no later than December 31, 2015. To date there have been no annual meetings or financial statements of the Association for the last two years. When contacted, the Secretary/treasurer employed by the developer states that due to her job responsibilities, she has no time to schedule a meeting to turn the Association over to the homeowners.
A group of homeowners obtained a list of current property owners and planning to hold a meeting and also send a ballot of interim Board members to transition from the developer to the homeowners. The plan is also to invite the developers to the meeting.
has anyone ran into a similar scenario and any comments as to what problems may develop?
JanetB2 (Colorado)
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Posted By RickK3 on 08/13/2017 1:11 PM
Our Association is located in Eastern Tennessee. The Declarant was to turn over the Association to the homeowners no later than December 31, 2015. To date there have been no annual meetings or financial statements of the Association for the last two years. When contacted, the Secretary/treasurer employed by the developer states that due to her job responsibilities, she has no time to schedule a meeting to turn the Association over to the homeowners.
A group of homeowners obtained a list of current property owners and planning to hold a meeting and also send a ballot of interim Board members to transition from the developer to the homeowners. The plan is also to invite the developers to the meeting.
has anyone ran into a similar scenario and any comments as to what problems may develop?

You need to look at your State HOA laws (if have) and your Non-Profit laws (if your HOA is established as a non-profit). Some states will have HOA statutes while others might have laws noted as "horizontal property". Potentially what you have stated is how I personally would address the issue as long as you are following both your state laws and governing documents.

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