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JohnR45 (Delaware)
Posts: 7
Posted:
Hello,

I am a condominium owner in Virginia that was recently bitten by a neighbor’s dog in the hallway entrance which leads to both of our units. Animal control investigated and they explained that since the severity of the bite was minor and since the dog was on a leash it was not considered a criminal violation. However, this incident that was in addition to the large dog’s previous aggressive behavior toward me and my family escalated my safety concerns and led me to call and respectfully talk to my neighbor about my concerns and the possibility of removing the dog from the premises. The neighbor in response wrote me a letter presenting alternative options. Most of the options did not appear to assure safety nor were practical such as one suggesting that I provide my entrance/leave schedule to my neighbor so they can avoid the hallway at that time. In addition, the letter misrepresented some of what I previously had communicated, so at that point I had low confidence in further resolving the matter with the neighbor one on one and decided to get the Condominium Association involved to assist. In addition to mediation, the other reasons I consider why the association should get involved is due to the bite having occurred in the common elements specifically the shared hallway which is the only entrance/exit to both our units, and that it appears that there are potential violations to the pet condominium regulations specifically relating to dog size (small), behavior (orderly) and that it not be a nuisance. I notified the condo management company property manager via email with all the details of the issue and after a couple of exchange of emails primarily by me, the condo management company responded asking what I specifically wanted the Board of Directors to do and that they needed my request in writing. They also advised that the Board’s authority in circumstances such as this is limited to certain actions if deemed appropriate they can take. I then raised the issue to a written compliant and report of possible violation of the condominium pet regulations. They received a letter a week ago, since then I have not received acknowledgement of my letter yet and have no idea on the status of the compliant.

At this time, I am not sure on the next steps I should take to ensure my safety concerns are being addressed.

Specifically, I would like to know:

-What is the standard response process from the association for a violation report? Is there a standard process to investigate my safety concerns?
-At what point does the condominium management company notify the board of directors of my complaint? Is there a minimum time by law for the association to respond?
-What is the relationship between a property management company and the board of directors? Does the condo management company become a gatekeeper (along with the HOA lawyers) before it gets to the board of directors?
-How enforceable are the condominium regulations?
-Can the condo board offer mediation?
-Should I pursue an outside third-party mediator via the county, a dog behavior-safety expert, or other option?

Finally, is it not in the best common interest for the association to at least investigate or offer mediation assistance with this issue? I ask since the bite occurred in the common elements, there is a potential of rule violations, and an overall community safety as well as liability issue since this could also occur to another resident or visitor.

I know this is a lot of information and questions, however the more time goes by without a response the more anxious I feel as I have a serious concern of another incident with this dog happening again primarily to my family and specially my young child. I am a condominium unit owner and have never been a member of a HOA board, hence my message to this forum for assistance.

I greatly appreciate any guidance or general feedback you can provide.
JH6 (Virginia)
Posts: 30
Posted:
Sorry the dog bit you and sorry that the neighbor is so unhelpful. The first step before you pursue any other remedy is to familiarize yourself with your association's bylaws and/or policy resolutions to determine whether you have a complaint the Board can address. That alone should answer most of your questions. If the Association doesn't have policies or by-laws in place regarding pets (which seems somewhat unlikely I'll admit), then the answers to your questions are no, no, no, it doesn't matter, no, no, maybe, and maybe. Alternately, you can show up at Board meetings and advocate a change, although this will not happen fast. If the Association does have policies or by-laws in place regarding this type of incident, then the answers to your questions are largely in there.

I can tell you, as a Board member, complaints that cite specific passages in the governing docs get addressed quickly, and complaints that don't cite actual rules typically get ignored or get an unhelpful boilerplate response.
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
Two rescue dogs own me, and I know they would rather lick you to death rather than bite someone. Be that it may, I know my dogs limitations. My Eskie does not like smaller dogs because he was attacked by a Chihuahua wile we were on a walk. I as a dog owner hold my dogs back as people pass and as other dog walkers pass by.

Sounds like your neighbor lacks situational awareness. Perhaps if they are out on a walk and see other people, they need to hold their dog back and let others pass before they proceed.

BTW, my HOA did nothing when my dog was attacked, the HOA said it was a civil matter. I did call animal control and they cited the other owner for dogs at-large.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Some of your questions should be addressed by the property manager – did you speak to him or her? If so, what was the response?

You can also discuss this with the board and they can decide if they want to step in because right now this sounds to me like a dispute between neighbors. Generally, condo and HOA boards would do well to stay out of those, unless the dispute involves damage or misuse of the common area. I realize you were bitten while the dog was in the hallway and this might have been a different story if the dog wasn’t leashed, but unless he’s done this before to other people, this may not be something they can address.

You may want to ask your neighbors if they’ve had issues with this dog – perhaps those people could attend the next board meeting with you and tell their stories – that could compel the board to get involved. Until then, you may want to go after this guy in small claims court and see what happens.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
AugustinD
Posts: 5,144
Posted:
JohnR45 wrote: "I then raised the issue to a written complaint and report of possible violation of the condominium pet regulations."

Hi John, I am sorry about what happened and the ongoing fear for your family and others. Can you please quote what you said in your complaint and also the pertinent pet regulations?

What is it you would hope to happen?

If I were on your board, I think I would motion that the board send a letter to the dog owner, asking them to take more care. I think the HOA has a responsibility to do this, to minimize its liability since it now knows about a significant safety concern. I am doubtful the HOA would be able to do more than this and be within the law.

On complaints, some HOA management companies are directed to handle as much as they can without bothering the (volunteer) board. What complaints are forwarded to the board can be subjective.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
This is an animal control issue and a civil case. Dogs are treated as property in the eyes of the law. So you would need to sue the owner for damages of your medical treatments. The HOA common area is just where the incident happened. Animal control needs contacted as they have to make the proper recording of this dog's history. It will help your case if there is a history of this dog being considered vicious.

The HOA can't do much but report to the animal control or police.

Former HOA President
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
For cris'akes Melissa! Some HOAs, especially condo HOAs, have very strict rules about dogs as just discussed on another thread. The reasons are obvious.

Of course, JohnR, should also report this to animal control TOO. But his HOA's board is obligated to enforce its rules. If it does not, as augie point out, the HOA could be liable is a more serious injury occurs to this victim ....or the next one!

OUR HOA rules state we can have a dog removed if it bites people. We've had one such incident, it not break the victim's skin. The dog owner explained his side of the issue, and and we (the board) put the pet owner on notice that we would require their dog be muzzled if a repeat offense occurred. No more after two years. While not in our rules, it apparently is OK in CA (I'd have to look this up again).

In a neighboring high rise, one dog may only enter & leave the condo building & elevators in a crate, which its owners place in a wagon.

So I'd request a private meeting with the Board and property mgr to discuss realistic options.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
So who is the lucky one to do that? Volunteers anyone for removing a dog from a home? Anyone? Anyone? Oh that's right. Let's call animal control or the police...

Former HOA President
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
If, Melissa, our Board did vote to have a dog removed from our HOA per our Rules & Regs ) one of our governing documents) we then, obviously would have animal control carry out the sentence IF the Owner refused to abide by our ruling. Never has happened in 16 years tough, nor has a muzzle order.
JohnR45 (Delaware)
Posts: 7
Posted:
Helle Againe,

First let me thank everybody who has repiede, I greatly appreciate all your valuable feedback. :-)

To further clarify, I did specify in my written letter to the association the specific pet rules I believe are being violated. Here are the ones I cited including my reasons (R as to why I believe they are being violated:

Pet Rule #1: “No animals or reptiles of any kind shall be raised, bred or kept in any unit or on the common elements, except that small, dogs, cats or other household pets, not to exceed one per unit without the prior approval of the Board of Directors, may be kept in a unit, subject to compliance with the Bylaws and these Regulations.”
R: Dog is clearly not a small and his aggressive behavior towards me and my family is not orderly.

Pet Rule #2: “A pet may be maintained in a unit so long as it is not a nuisance. Actions which will constitute a nuisance include but are not limited to abnormal or unreasonable crying, barking, scratching or unhygenic offensiveness. “
R: Dog's aggressive behavior including barking and charging towards us is a nuisance. I also consider the bite I sustained in the shared stairway including the need to visit an Emergency Room, receiving a tetanus shot and being prescribed antibiotics a nuisance. In addition, the need for me and my wife to continuously check our unit door peephole, windows or having to slowly open the stairway door every time we want to enter or exit our unit is also a nuisance.

Pet Rule #3: All pets must be registered and innoculated as required by law and registered with the Association office.
R: I do not know if the dog was registered with the Association prior to the bite incident. If he was, what was the registration process and how are pets verified to meet the condominium pet regulations including size?

For additional clarity here are the remaining pet rules:
4- Pet owners are fully responsible for personal injuries and/or property damage caused by their pets.
5- Except in designated pet exercise areas, pets must be leashed or carried; leashes may not exceed six feet in length.
6- Owners of pets walked upon the common elements must promptly clean up their pet's droppings in all areas outside the authorized pet exercise areas.

I obtained these regulations from the 'Rules and Regulations' section of my association's “The Book of Resolutions” document.
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Here is some background information in the document I found relevant pertaining to the rules and regulations:
- The Owners Association acting through its Board of Directors, has adopted the following Rules and Regulations ('Regulations'). These Regulations may be amended from time no time by resolution of the Board of Directors.
- The Association reserves the right to alter, amend, modify, repeal or revoke these Regulations and any consent l or approval given hereunder at any time by resolution of the Association or the Board of Directors.

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Here is additional relevant information from the overall ‘Book of Resolutions’ document.
CLASSIFICATION OF RESOLUTIONS
The resolutions of the Board shall be classified as follows
A. "Policy Resolutions" means resolutions adopted by the Board which specifically relate to the long-term governance of the Association, including without limitation actions affecting the property rights, obligations and equity of both the Association and the individual Owners.
B. 'Administrative Resolutions" means those resolutions adopted by the Board which deal with the internal operation and structure of the Association including, without limitation, resolutions adopted with respect to contracts, financial procedures and committee terms of reference.
c. "Special Resolutions" means (1) resolutions adopted by the Board or the Covenants Committee with respect to questions of compliance by an owner or Resident with the provisions of the Condominium Act, the Condominium Instruments or the Book of Resolutions: and (2) resolutions adopted by the Covenants Committee in the course of issuing an interpretation of the
Condominium Instruments, pursuant to Section xx of the Bylaws .
D. "General Resolutions" means those resolutions adopted by the Board with respect to specific expenditures, single task actions, and other matters which have no continuing, far-reaching or precedent setting implications .

-CONFLICTS:
If there is a conflict between the provisions contained in the Book of Resolutions and those in the Condominium Act, the Declaration or the Bylaws, then the provisions of each shall control in the following order: the Condominium Act, the Declaration, and the Bylaws.
- SEVERABILITY
The invalidity of any portion of the Book of Resolutions shall not impair or affect in any manner the validity, enforceability or effect of the balance of the Book of Resolutions.
- APPLICABILITY
Any reference made herein with respect to actions taken by the Association shall include the Managing Agent where the Association has delegated its authority to take such action to the Managing Agent.
- COMPLIANCE
All Owners, their tenants, employees, guests, licensees and invitees shall comply with the provisions of the Book of Resolutions.
- ENFORCEMENT
The Association, Declarant, any successor Declarant, any Owner or Tenant shall have the right to enforce, by any proceeding set forth herein or at law or in equity, all provisions of this Book of Resolutions and the Condominium Instruments. Failure by the Association, Declarant, a successor Declarant, any Owner or Tenant to enforce any of the provisions of this Book of Resolutions shall in no event be deemed a waiver of the right to do so thereafter. A waiver of such rights shall be effective only pursuant to a written instrument signed by the party to be charged with such waiver. Such instrument shall operate as a waiver of only those provisions which are expressly waived therein.
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I again apologize for this bombardment of information. Thanks again for all your responses.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Your a member of this HOA right? Then what point of enforcement do you do onto your other members? Do unto others as you would have done onto you...

Former HOA President
JohnR45 (Delaware)
Posts: 7
Posted:
Sorry for the typos above. I would also like to add that a police dog bite report was initiated by the hospital and filed with animal control. However according to what they verbally told me (the redacted copy I received of the report does not does not indicate their conclusions), that since the severity of the bite was minor and since the dog was on a leash it was not considered a criminal violation. The purpose of my complaint is not to seek some type of compensation from the neighbor for my injury. What I am seeking is the prevention of what occurred to me to occur again, including a possibly worse incident.This also is a nuisance to my day to day living at the condominium because of continuously having to be 'on the lookout' everytime I enter or exit my unit.
AugustinD
Posts: 5,144
Posted:
Hi JohnR45, thank you for the elaboration. I am not sure whether your state's statutes have exacting timelines for the items you list. If this goes to court (and it may), then I think a court would say 45 days was a long enough time to wait for appropriate HOA action before elevating the matter to a letter of demand. (The courts are looking for all parties to be "fair and reasonable" and to try to keep matters from going to court. Court resources are precious. Any party being 'too hasty' in filing a complaint with the court will worsen her or his chances of ultimate success.) Give the letter of demand another 45 days. Then consider hiring an attorney and taking this to court. Like many HOAs, and per your citations your HOA lets you as a member undertake enforcement of the governing documents.
TimM11
Posts: 354
Posted:
Re: rule #1, the lack of a definition of "small" makes that part of the rule impossible to enforce. Some people would consider it less than twenty pounds, some would consider it less than eighty, and so on.
DouglasM6 (Arizona)
Posts: 724
Posted:
The dog was on a leash? was this a close leash (4-5 feet) or one of those long retracting ones?

If the dog is always on the leash, and you want to prevent this from happening again, stay far enough away from the dog so he can't reach you. Does the pet owner sit in the hallway with the dog? Or would a chance meeting be just you and he meeting and you waiting while he puts the dog indoors?

I had a dog bite a guy one time while on the leash. He tried legal action and was told it was his fault for getting that close to me. Had I asked him to come close it would have been different I'm sure.

I guess what I'm saying is unless just no way of avoiding the dog, I'd let it go. I might ask the guy to put a muzzle on him while in the building. Or maybe go make friends with some treats or something.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
I understand the pet rules, but once again, this may be seen as more of a dispute between neighbors and the HOA can't get involved unless more people have complained. That said, I would agree a strongly worded letter from the board would be nice. Even better some sort of blur in the community newsletter or on the website reminding everyone of the rules

Still, there's no guarantee this won't happen again, but have you seen this dog since the incident? If so, is the neighbor doing better in keeping it under control, perhaps putting a muzzle on him when he takes it out or staying inside the doorway of his home until you leave the area? You might want to give him a little time to see if that's effective, but if not or he doesn't seem to care, you may just need to go after him in small claims court.

Homeowners can enforce community rules against each other and maybe what they guy needs is a beatdown of sorts in the wallet to straighten up and fly right (you can ask for your expenses to be reimbursed since it doesn't sound like you needed medical attention). In the meantime, keep notifying the property manager (and perhaps animal control) every time this dog is unleased or otherwise causing trouble - a paper trail can help in case this does end up in court

I did a quick search on the web and there are Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) registered dog attack deterrent sprays you might also try. Some of them have a range of up to 15 feet and when sprayed in the dog's eyes, it'll sting (the stuff is usually made with pepper). The effects aren't long lasting and gives you time to get out of the area. If nothing else, the dog may remember that the next time he sees you - and stay away from you on his own.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JH6 (Virginia)
Posts: 30
Posted:
John, that's very helpful information. I was going to write more, but I think I generally agree with Sheila. As Sheila noted though, it's going to be tough with those rules for the Board to preemptively act here beyond reminding the owner of their responsibilities.

So to summarize, what I'd do is clearly and formally ask the Board to notify the owner that it is their responsibility under [section involving nuisance and the responsibility for injury] to keep control of the dog, and remind the owner that the dog can be banned under rules 1 or 2 if it bites again. Then you're on the record as having asked them to enforce the a rule on behalf of your safety and may help you if it happens again. I think that's the most reasonable outcome. I would not call barking at you in passing a nuisance--that's too broad of an interpretation, probably 80% of the dogs in the world would violate that. For Rule #3, you might technically be right, but you're not asking for a remedy, you're just trying using a rule as a bludgeon to achieve something entirely unrelated to the rule. Would you be satisfied if they registered the dog (which is the most obvious remedy)? Probably not, so don't mention that one.

Just be clear, concise, and to the point. Say what violations concern you, how it impacts you, and what remedy you'd like. Don't give them a laundry list of "possible violations" and overly-broad complaints, else you're inviting them to ignore you. As for the dog repellent, I personally wouldn't endorse it without knowing a lot more about the situation, but it might be worth investigating. It might make you feel better at the least, which sounds like it would be a big positive.

Good luck!
JohnR45 (Delaware)
Posts: 7
Posted:
Thanks again for all your comments!

Some responses and follow-up comments.

My encounter with the dog was exactly as I was going down the stairs to exit the hallway and at the same time the owner was entering via the only door that we have to enter/exit the building. The door that leads to the outside does not have windows so I cannot see who or what is behind it coming in and vice versa. As I was opening the door the neighbor was coming in and the dog immediately advances toward me while I immediately retreated back up the stairs but not enough to avoid being bitten. Unless I had x-ray vision I could not have seen the dog and owner coming towards the entrance door. I can see someone arguing that I should not have immediately fled but as I said before this is a large and aggressive dog. The leash limit in this case would not be as significant as the ability of the dog owner to enter the hallway with caution and have the ability to immediately pull back the dog if he’s advancing forward. The dog owner should be able to control the animal to avoid it becoming a threat to others regardless of how another person reacts including someone like my young child!

I understand the point about not including all potential applicable rules, but I definitely believe rules #1 and 2 are being violated in my situation. I understand that the Association may be reluctant to intercede unless others complain (or if some else gets bitten!). However I am the only one who has to share the same entry/exit path to my unit with my neighbor and dog so the risk level I and my family have is higher than for the majority of the other condo residents. This is a garden-style condo, where there is no other entrance exit to both our units unless you count eh balconies ;-)
My main concern is the dog's aggressive behavior combined with what I see as a limited ability of the owner to control the dog.

I did state in my written letter that I believe the dog being removed would be the safest action. However, I would be open to other possible safety options, and I have considered this more in the past few days. One of the options I am thinking is having the dog assessed by a dog or animal behavior specialist (which I saw online) that can determine dog behavior issues and if they can be modified by training, as well as assess how the owner handles the dog. However, I do believe a neutral and objective third party is needed to mediate this but I do not know who. I was hoping the Association but at this time they have not yet responded to my last letter. I agree it would be nice if the Association send a notification to the neighbor but more importantly I would prefer they contact me and the neighbor for a brief chat to go over the safety concerns and go from there.

One of the responses above from Augustin indicates that according to the rules, I can "undertake enforcement of the governing documents". This is confusing to me since if I can the lead enforcement what’s the role of the board? Not to mention the time and resources I would need to spend to address this issue on my own.

Furthermore, if the delay from the board to intervene is due to the complexity or implications of the enforcement the rules, then why have rules pertaining to the pets to begin with?

At this point, I am considering mediation options but it seems like I will have to take the lead with a professional mediator or lawyer which is very frustrating but it seems like it is the only way to have the safety issues addressed.
AugustinD
Posts: 5,144
Posted:
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Posted By JohnR45 on 08/08/2017 9:32 PM
One of the responses above from Augustin indicates that according to the rules, I can "undertake enforcement of the governing documents". This is confusing to me since if I can the lead enforcement what’s the role of the board? Not to mention the time and resources I would need to spend to address this issue on my own.

I think many HOA's governing documents include such a (legal) clause to maximize legal options available to members. Some of these members may want action sooner rather than later, for one.

John, respectfully, I hope you understand the board consists of volunteers. They typically give enormous, unpaid time to overseeing the grounds. Yes they stepped up to volunteer and agreed to do these things. Still, I keep the expectations for my boards low. From where I am sitting, anyone having a huge problem with how a board handles things needs to be willing to step up and be on the board him- or herself. I think it's important to have this experience of giving many hours to managing the HOA; being on the receiving end of (sometimes vicious) criticism and sometimes criminal harassment, often based in lack of understanding of the Declaration, Bylaws and so on, and receive no pay for it.

The dog bite situation is serious. It's not uncommon for one HOA neighbor to send another HOA member a letter of demand to get action, simultaneous to going through the complaint process with the HOA. Because of this clause in the governing documents (about how one member may enforce the rules against another member), and if you have already politely communicated with the dog owner, you might want to google on "letter of demand" and send one to your neighbor.
MichelleK5 (New York)
Posts: 161
Posted:
It doesn't sound like your board can or will do much regarding this.

Your proposal to have a behaviorist assess the dog is an interesting one, but who's going to pay? Licensed behaviorists here charge over $1,000. You think the owner will pay? An owner who has no incentive to do so even if they're wrong? And what kind of conclusion are you hoping from an animal behaviorist? They generally work with dogs to get them to change behaviors. I don't know of any owner who would agree to having a behaviorist label their dog dangerous or not.

Also, the police report says it was a minor incident and doesn't consider it a "criminal violation."
It sounds like you're limited in what you can legally do at this point.

I do though think your problem can be easily solved with a muzzle. Asking the owner to use a muzzle when the dog leaves the apartment, and comes back in is reasonable. Considering what happened, the owners may very well agree.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:

JH seems to agree with Sheila, who wrote I understand the pet rules, but once again, this may be seen as more of a dispute between neighbors and the HOA can't get involved unless more people have complained. That said, I would agree a strongly worded letter from the board would be nice. Even better some sort of blur in the community newsletter or on the website reminding everyone of the rules."

I'd agree with their reasoning IF there's no proof of the rules violations. In that case, it'd be he said, she said.

Given that the victim has undeniable evidence of the violation of the rules, the Board is obliged to enforce them. There do NOT need to be further victims. In fact, if the Board does not act to the discipline the dog owner somehow or other, the HOA could be liable for any further attacks by this dog, as Augie correctly asserted.

For the PM or board or anyone else to suggest mediation, doggie therapy, or you giving the neighbor a calendar of your comings & goings is absurd. You should have the same rights to peaceful enjoyment of your home as everyone else.

JohnR: write your letter, basically as suggested by others, to the Board via the PM and ask for a meeting with the Board to discuss what can done about this problem pet. Keep your letter much briefer than what you wrote here. Be very direct & to the point. The board may have to meet with one another, after they get your letter to decide if they want to meet with you. The MAY want advice from the HOA attorney before they meet with you; they may not.

Their simplest purse would be, as we did, to put the dog(& owners) on probation. No further attacks for the next 3 months? 6 months? or the dog must be muzzled while in the common areas, or may be required to be removed from the premises.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Since it appears no one else has been bitten or nearly bitten by this animal, you have no choice but to address this on your own. As I said earlier, homeowners can enforce the CCRs against each other, which is what I believe is Augustine’s point. HOA boards have a lot on their plate and sometimes they must choose what type of violation they’re going to focus on – unfortunately for you, this isn’t it (yet).

Sometimes people expect the board to do what they should be doing themselves – there’s nothing wrong with talking to the neighbor about this issue and trying to come to a resolution. If you didn’t live in an HOA community and this happened, you’d have to spend your time and resources to resolve it anyway, so it’s a matter of determining what might work. If a letter didn’t work try something else.

Yes, you can go to an attorney and pursue legal action, but I don’t think you’re there yet. I also think you may have trouble showing this dog is dangerous – sure he bit you, but without documentation or witnesses showing they’ve also been attacked and bitten, you may not have any grounds to argue that the dog should be removed from the building.
So let’s see – you mentioned you have a child – has he/she or your spouse mentioned having any conflicts with this dog? If so, bring that to the board’s attention as well, as it could bolster your chance of at least getting them to send a letter to the owner.

How big is this dog – large to some people is a Great Dane, others a French bulldog and still others your garden variety mutt – could it be you’re afraid of any size dog on some level? Regardless of size, dogs are pack animals and can react if they sense something is fearful (like prey) – you may not think you should have immediately fled when seeing it, but instinct is instinct. Have you tried contacting animal control or local humane society for suggestions on what to do when coming across an aggressive dog? Try that and share that information with your family if necessary.
You also mentioned mediation, which is a good idea. Do you have a neighbor who knows both of you and who isn’t afraid of the dog? Perhaps he or she would be willing to mediate between you two, especially since I think you’re still intimated by the dog. I understand why - I wouldn’t want another confrontation that may end with a series of rabies shots or worse as opposed to a minor bite.

Finally, you said the door that leads to the outside of the building doesn’t have windows so you can’t see who or what’s coming in or out. Is there a light in the area – if not, perhaps the Board could have a light installed there (it would be nice for general safety.) That may help when you enter or leave the building and see the dog coming.


If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JohnR45 (Delaware)
Posts: 7
Posted:
I have a couple of updates today.

First, I had another close encounter with the dog today(!). This morning I was exiting the stairway at the same time my neighbor was approaching the entrance with the dog. In this case the dog was several feet away from the entrance, and as soon as he saw me he immediately started growling and advancing towards me, this time I did not retreat and stayed in the doorway observing the dog and my neighbor. My neighbor with some difficulty started pulling on the leash and eventually retreated back the dog sufficiently so I could safely exit the building ( I will also add although I do not like giving too much details here, that the owner is most likely in a senior age range). I immediately walked to my car and left, deciding not to exchange words with the neighbor although I was very upset. Note that in no moment did the owner issue any commands for the dog to 'stay’, ‘sit’ or ‘lie down’. The only words the neighbor directed to the dog were 'wait!, wait'!’ while pulling on the leash, throughout the duration of this event the dog remained standing-up with the leash extended facing me. This was clear day and what this helped prove to me is that the leash itself would not have been an effective restraint had the dog been entering the door at the same time I was exiting, which was the case when I got bitten the last time. This also made clear to me that the only effective restraint would be in the dog owner's ability to enter the building ideally owner first, and to have the ability to immediately pull back the dog if he’s advancing forward. Shelia mentioned placing a light in the area, the light is not really helpful in this case, there are already lights in the entrance, the issue is that the door is a non-transparent wooden door, I cannot see through it and I do not know what's behind it until I open it.

Based on a recommendation here I immediately emailed my condo manager and reported the latest incident. I also added a follow-up to my formal letter and indicated that while I still feel that the dog leaving the premises is the safest option, I would be open to mediation with a third party to include a behaviour assessment by a animal behavior specialist. I also mentioned that I had yet to receive a response from my written complaint letter.

I was later surprised to receive a response from the condo manager a short while later indicating that the Board has been reviewing my letter and that they sent my neighbor a letter in relation to the bite incident. They also indicated that a letter regarding their actions is forthcoming to me. They also advised that there are certain regulations that the Board must follow in responding to any violation of the covenants.

So, at this point this is a somewhat positive note. I do not know yet what notification the neighbor received but I hope it leads to more positive news soon.

Will keep you posted. Thanks Again.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
John,

Why not draft a proposal to the Board.

Our pet policy specifies: Animals deemed dangerous by any State, County or Municipality must wear a muzzle when on the common area.

Note: we specified that the State, County or City must make the determination because it removes subjectiveness by the Board.

I would also suggest that a muzzle be used as a compromise in your situation because the animal did bite.

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