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JacobF (Georgia)
Posts: 2
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I am currently dealing with an property management company acting as the HOA which is requesting information regarding my guests, to verify they don't actually live in my residence. I was unaware this is such a rampant problem in my neighborhood of residents parking in guest spots. There is no mention of this authority in the bylaws or CC&R. They are not a law enforcement agency and I am pretty sure they have no legal right to do so as a result. I have spoken with a friend from law school that is a partner at a firm which specializes in HOA and condominium law who will be acting as my co-counsel. He has never heard of a neighborhood doing this. Long story short they are threatening to tow guests who do not provide this information. I was curious if anyone else is experiencing the same thing?
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
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Posted By JacobF on 07/24/2017 9:28 AM
I am currently dealing with an property management company acting as the HOA which is requesting information regarding my guests, to verify they don't actually live in my residence. I was unaware this is such a rampant problem in my neighborhood of residents parking in guest spots. There is no mention of this authority in the bylaws or CC&R. They are not a law enforcement agency and I am pretty sure they have no legal right to do so as a result. I have spoken with a friend from law school that is a partner at a firm which specializes in HOA and condominium law who will be acting as my co-counsel. He has never heard of a neighborhood doing this. Long story short they are threatening to tow guests who do not provide this information. I was curious if anyone else is experiencing the same thing?

I am going to assume that you are in a condo community. So, YES the HOA managing company can and does act on behalf of the BOD. The HOA can and does enforce parking on their "private property." Typically HOA's ask for owner/ tenant information like vehicle description and plate number. in most cases property owners that contract with a towing company must post the name of the towing company and their address and phone number. Also a bland sign stating "private property" No Trespassing" with the state statute on it satisfies the legal mumbo jumbo.

Is you HOA guarded? do they hand out parking passes? Are "residents" issued a parking sticker? Typically cars cannot be towed unless they are placarded with a tow warning of 48-72 hours.
Because HOA's don't have DMV access to license plate information, and they are not going to call the police for every car that appears to be abandoned, towing it the only alternative.

In short, yes the HOA and the MC acting in local parents for the association has the right and duty to collect such information.
JacobF (Georgia)
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Posted By LetA on 07/24/2017 10:31 AM
Posted By JacobF on 07/24/2017 9:28 AM
I am currently dealing with an property management company acting as the HOA which is requesting information regarding my guests, to verify they don't actually live in my residence. I was unaware this is such a rampant problem in my neighborhood of residents parking in guest spots. There is no mention of this authority in the bylaws or CC&R. They are not a law enforcement agency and I am pretty sure they have no legal right to do so as a result. I have spoken with a friend from law school that is a partner at a firm which specializes in HOA and condominium law who will be acting as my co-counsel. He has never heard of a neighborhood doing this. Long story short they are threatening to tow guests who do not provide this information. I was curious if anyone else is experiencing the same thing?


I am going to assume that you are in a condo community. So, YES the HOA managing company can and does act on behalf of the BOD. The HOA can and does enforce parking on their "private property." Typically HOA's ask for owner/ tenant information like vehicle description and plate number. in most cases property owners that contract with a towing company must post the name of the towing company and their address and phone number. Also a bland sign stating "private property" No Trespassing" with the state statute on it satisfies the legal mumbo jumbo.

Is you HOA guarded? do they hand out parking passes? Are "residents" issued a parking sticker? Typically cars cannot be towed unless they are placarded with a tow warning of 48-72 hours.
Because HOA's don't have DMV access to license plate information, and they are not going to call the police for every car that appears to be abandoned, towing it the only alternative.

In short, yes the HOA and the MC acting in local parents for the association has the right and duty to collect such information.

Its actually a townhouse community. While a majority of the homes are owned, some are rented and this is the issue they are trying to address. While they can enforce their parking rule that are stipulated in their documents, their is no mention of towing guests parked in a guest spot who has not given additional information to show they do not live in the neighborhood. This is not listed in the CC&R. This is not a guarded community and they do not give out parking passes to residents or guests. They appear to be logging vehicles parked in guest parking and if there more than 24 hours, requesting the information from the guests via a posted note on the vehicle that if the guest does not comply, they will be towed. Hopefully that clarifies things and allows you to amend your previous answer.
RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 3,868
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Sorry, but the friend from law school that is a partner at a firm which specializes in HOA and condominium law is wrong.
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
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You should watch the TV show, 'Parking Wars" it is a big eye opener.. Your CC&R's have a clause that refers to your state's revised statute regarding the governance of common interest properties and their rights and responsibilities.

I can tell you this. It is the private property owners right how they want to run their affairs. Parking is not obligatory, it is conditional.
TimM11
Posts: 354
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The HOA has the right to set parking rules. I'm not sure about the laws in your state, but in mine, private property owners are given wide latitude when it comes to towing and they don't need to follow the same procedures that local governments do.

That being said, the HOA also needs to be clear about what the rules are. If there is truly nothing in the rules about towing, that's a problem.

GeorgeR8 (Arizona)
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Posted By LetA on 07/24/2017 10:31 AM
Posted By JacobF on 07/24/2017 9:28 AM
I am currently dealing with an property management company acting as the HOA which is requesting information regarding my guests, to verify they don't actually live in my residence. I was unaware this is such a rampant problem in my neighborhood of residents parking in guest spots. There is no mention of this authority in the bylaws or CC&R. They are not a law enforcement agency and I am pretty sure they have no legal right to do so as a result. I have spoken with a friend from law school that is a partner at a firm which specializes in HOA and condominium law who will be acting as my co-counsel. He has never heard of a neighborhood doing this. Long story short they are threatening to tow guests who do not provide this information. I was curious if anyone else is experiencing the same thing?


I am going to assume that you are in a condo community. So, YES the HOA managing company can and does act on behalf of the BOD. The HOA can and does enforce parking on their "private property." Typically HOA's ask for owner/ tenant information like vehicle description and plate number. in most cases property owners that contract with a towing company must post the name of the towing company and their address and phone number. Also a bland sign stating "private property" No Trespassing" with the state statute on it satisfies the legal mumbo jumbo.

Is you HOA guarded? do they hand out parking passes? Are "residents" issued a parking sticker? Typically cars cannot be towed unless they are placarded with a tow warning of 48-72 hours.
Because HOA's don't have DMV access to license plate information, and they are not going to call the police for every car that appears to be abandoned, towing it the only alternative.

In short, yes the HOA and the MC acting in local parents for the association has the right and duty to collect such information.

I call the police. They call the owner. So far it has always been a friend or relative that left on a trip with one of our residents.

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