Heavy Duty Pool Regs coming down the pike

Interesting. What's behind the need for stricter regulations? Have there been a rash of health problems at association pools? Or are the new rules geared towards casino hotels and associations are getting caught up in the push for automated maintenance systems?

The real name of the legislation is Davis-Stirling. It ONLY applies to CA. I'm baffled why you keep referring to it as if it applies to NV and maybe other states. Not true.

I am with Geno ... are the HOA's getting caught up in Casino Pool regulations??? It appears that potentially all HOA's need to be sure to attend these meetings and participate in the discussions.

I'm not sure Tim:

Per the draft: https://www.southernnevadahealthdistrict.org/download/ahp-regs-final-draft.pdf

“AQUATIC FACILITY” means a physical place that contains one or more AQUATIC VENUES and support infrastructure.

“AQUATIC VENUE” means an artificially constructed structure or modified natural structure where the general public is exposed to water intended for recreational or therapeutic purpose. Such structures do not necessarily contain standing water, so water exposure may occur via contact, ingestion, or aerosolization. Examples include swimming POOLS, WAVE POOLS, LAZY RIVERS, SURF POOLS, SPAS (including SPA POOLS and hot tubs), THERAPY POOLS, WATERSLIDE LANDING POOLS, spray pads, and other interactive water venues.

“OWNER” means any person, individual, partnership, corporation, company, association or like entity who owns, leases, or proposes to own or lease an AQUATIC VENUE or AQUATIC FACILITY.

“PATRON” means a BATHER or other person or occupant at an AQUATIC FACILITY who may or may not have contact with AQUATIC VENUE water either through partial or total immersion. PATRONS may not have contact with AQUATIC VENUE water, but could still be exposed to potential contamination from the AQUATIC FACILITY air, surfaces, or aerosols.

“QUALIFIED OPERATOR” means an individual, with an active HEALTH AUTHORITY registration, responsible for the operation and maintenance of the water systems and the associated infrastructure of the AQUATIC FACILITY.

“RESPONSIBLE PERSON” means an individual on-site that is responsible for the proper function of water treatment operations when a QUALIFIED OPERATOR is not on-site at an AQUATIC FACILITY.

The document itself is 110 pages long so have not read it all; however, the definitions I have read with some above potentially open a huge can of worms for HOA's. My mom bought a "vacation home" for the family in Vegas, so this could be an issue for our HOA there.

Also ... Did you just happen upon this info OR was your HOA informed because you have a pool?

Note the regulation says places that are available to the General Public. It may not apply to HOA's as they are not available to the General Public. Same as making the pool handicap accessible. Not necessary for a private pool.

The new proposed requirements are thought to be necessary because many/some pools are NOT being properly maintained because of the typical 3 day per week service schedules.



3. and 4. are the crux of the matter

EITHER:

properly maintain manually

or

properly maintain automatically

CHOICE:

ongoing labor cost

or

equipment cost

POOLS ARE EXPENSIVE ~ GET OVER IT

In California, HOA pools are *public* so double check your state's laws before concluding this legislation changes your pool's status.

We already have to maintain automated systems and they can be as simple as a pentair 320 trichlor chamber. It's basically a chamber that you fill with 3" tabs and they drip feed chlorine into the pool. Some pools supplement with a SWG (salt water generator), but I can't get clarification from the health department why I'd still have to maintain the automatic feeder if we installed an SWG. You may already have an automatic system but not realize it. The only other way you'd be chlorinating your pool would be floating skimmers or leaving tabs in the pump basket--both being unreliable and would be a lot more maintenance.

Here in California, we only have to test three times if we have 25+ units. Since the HOA I'm in only has 21 we test twice weekly.

Because everything the DPRC does Nevada has to do, and besides, our CM has quoted from that and the Plaza Mobile Estates regarding our community regs.

The SNHD tried to hurry the passage up last year, but someone in attendance took a stand, most likely from the resort industry.

LetA, you wrote in reference to CA's Davis-Stirling legislation that, "Because everything the DPRC does Nevada has to do, and besides, our CM has quoted from that and the Plaza Mobile Estates regarding our community regs."

What is DPRC???

Disability Programs and Resource Center (DPRC)

Thanks, Richard for your: "Disability Programs and Resource Center (DPRC)." So does it apply to CA and how does it affect swimming pools?

HOA pools are semi-public, not private. At least that's how they are defined here in Az.

In SC a pool in an association is considered private thus not under regulations such as a pool open to the public is. Now I do assume the Board of Health could close it down but otherwise it is up to the association to maintain it. Having lived in several associations in 4 states, one reason I chose my present association is we have no amenities such as pool. tennis. etc. Amenities are always the biggest money drain and the main reason for dissension, especially pools.

No

I have thought about running for a BOD spot and our HOA does not have any committees at all. One reoccurring problem we are having is the pool servicing company keeps over filling the hot tub. A.) The water line is half as thick as the concrete slab around the hot tub and B.) that water is going to go under the slab and lift it. C.) when 3 people sit in the tub it overflows. This is like the 4th or 5th time this has happened and it takes 2 or 3 days to get fixed only for it to happen again and again, I am getting tired of reporting it.

It is like the pool servicing company is hiring some mouth breather that don't know jack. This is where I would support individual certification by the health district.

I saw the correction, but my point is there are three types of pools. Everyone keeps mentioning public and private. The third is semi-public. I can't speak for the Democratic Peoples Republic of Communistic Totalitarian California, but in AZ, (the wild west) the rules are different for HOA pools as they are considered semi-public.

It's a pain in the ass, but after reading through the rules for public pools, I'm glad we are semi. Our pool is also on a county island.

Agree ... each State is different.

In South Carolina an association pool is classified Type 'B' Public.

The gist of the logic:

Members of the public who are NOT homeowners within the HOA may be invited as guests.

A private club with no guest users would be 'private pool'.

A single family residence with its own pool would be 'private pool'.

Actually quite simple and TYPICAL for most states (albeit with different nomenclature).