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JohnB78 (Texas)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Hi folks,

Oh, so many questions, I am sorry. I will try to keep this brief, I promise.

Problem PoA. No documentation for years, no real financial accounting. 4 officer positions one year and 2 were held by a husband and wife who owned one lot/tract, then denied my wife and I being on the board a couple years later at the same time although we own two lots/tracts.

I have been trying to help "from the sidelines" and finally gave up and put my foot down and decided to challenge them openly.

Two years ago my wife and I discovered the previous board members had terminated the PoA accidentally, a month after the new PoA board took office. It took us 4 months to convince the new PoA president the PoA was a corporation so we could reinstate it. Even then, he did not believe it but 'allowed' us to 'try'.

We did that, changed the name, actually filed the first officer/board/registered agent changes that had been filed since inception.

Now that is done, nothing has been done. We spent almost a year trying to convince them there were by-laws, even if they were simply "fill-in-the-blank ones that never got filed or changed. They still do not believe that and have cut me off all together.

I have been kicked off the board one year, they refused to hold a single meeting the following year because they did not want me there, told my wife and I we could not be on the board at the same time, and this year, just said to go away....all the while, WE were the ones doing all the research, leg work, filing... they even had the EX treasurer refuse to give the President of the PoA access to the checking account. "I" had to go in and get my wife access, she is the Secretary and was also refused.

I have been on numerous boards, and a couple publicly traded companies...so was the only one with experience and was trying to help and be a good neighbor, but I ran into the old, "we have been doing this a while.. you have only been here three years, you need to be quiet and watch what we do".

So...here we are. I am writing / shaping a set of by-laws to take to our new annual meeting and a confrontation I know we will have.

The nominating committee thing is what I am not sitting well with.

This is a PoA known for controlling the board and communication etc. If we could even GET 3 unbias people to accept this, there surely will be abuse of it. 6 years we have tried to get an open dialog and cannot get an agenda item brought up.

Is it possible NOT to use a nominating committee if we don't add it to the by-laws?

This is a ranch PoA...most everyone lives 5+ hours away. MOST never see each other more than once a year, if that.

A committee of anything but the roads seems to be WAY overkill for this sort of a setup.

Ideas?

Thanks. Again.. I am very sorry to ask. I can do most the rest of this.. i.e. too many board member slots that must be filled. Trying to knock the minimums down so we do not wear people out.

I am also going to try to define "teeth" into the by-laws or covenants to allow people to levy fines for folks that do not pay their annual dues. I need to research that, but more importantly, just having by-laws that list our name on them so no-one has to do this again would be helpful.

Most these folks are blue-collar and do not understand legal jargon... so need things to be defined clearly.

Thanks!
NigelB (Texas)
Posts: 254
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JohnB78 on 04/27/2017 4:49 PM
Hi folks,

Oh, so many questions, I am sorry. I will try to keep this brief, I promise.

Problem PoA. No documentation for years, no real financial accounting. 4 officer positions one year and 2 were held by a husband and wife who owned one lot/tract, then denied my wife and I being on the board a couple years later at the same time although we own two lots/tracts.

I have been trying to help "from the sidelines" and finally gave up and put my foot down and decided to challenge them openly.

Two years ago my wife and I discovered the previous board members had terminated the PoA accidentally, a month after the new PoA board took office. It took us 4 months to convince the new PoA president the PoA was a corporation so we could reinstate it. Even then, he did not believe it but 'allowed' us to 'try'.

We did that, changed the name, actually filed the first officer/board/registered agent changes that had been filed since inception.

Now that is done, nothing has been done. We spent almost a year trying to convince them there were by-laws, even if they were simply "fill-in-the-blank ones that never got filed or changed. They still do not believe that and have cut me off all together.

I have been kicked off the board one year, they refused to hold a single meeting the following year because they did not want me there, told my wife and I we could not be on the board at the same time, and this year, just said to go away....all the while, WE were the ones doing all the research, leg work, filing... they even had the EX treasurer refuse to give the President of the PoA access to the checking account. "I" had to go in and get my wife access, she is the Secretary and was also refused.

I have been on numerous boards, and a couple publicly traded companies...so was the only one with experience and was trying to help and be a good neighbor, but I ran into the old, "we have been doing this a while.. you have only been here three years, you need to be quiet and watch what we do".

So...here we are. I am writing / shaping a set of by-laws to take to our new annual meeting and a confrontation I know we will have.

The nominating committee thing is what I am not sitting well with.

This is a PoA known for controlling the board and communication etc. If we could even GET 3 unbias people to accept this, there surely will be abuse of it. 6 years we have tried to get an open dialog and cannot get an agenda item brought up.

Is it possible NOT to use a nominating committee if we don't add it to the by-laws?

This is a ranch PoA...most everyone lives 5+ hours away. MOST never see each other more than once a year, if that.

A committee of anything but the roads seems to be WAY overkill for this sort of a setup.

Ideas?

Thanks. Again.. I am very sorry to ask. I can do most the rest of this.. i.e. too many board member slots that must be filled. Trying to knock the minimums down so we do not wear people out.

I am also going to try to define "teeth" into the by-laws or covenants to allow people to levy fines for folks that do not pay their annual dues. I need to research that, but more importantly, just having by-laws that list our name on them so no-one has to do this again would be helpful.

Most these folks are blue-collar and do not understand legal jargon... so need things to be defined clearly.

Thanks!

The Texas legislature amended The Texas Property Owners Protection Act in 2015.

Under the change Section 209.00593 (a-1) of the Texas Property Code relating to the election of Board Members effectively eliminates the appointment of a Nominating Committee to nominate individuals to serve on an HOA Board of Directors.

It requires that at least 10 days before the date a property owners' association composed of more than 100 lots disseminates absentee ballots or other ballots to association members for purposes of voting in a board member election, the association must provide notice to the association members soliciting candidates interested in running for a position on the board.

The notice must contain instructions for an eligible candidate to notify the association of the candidate's request to be placed on the ballot and the deadline to submit the candidate's request.

Any member of the association that has expressed a desire to be considered a candidate must be placed on the ballot. Any provision in a governing document requiring that those candidates be vetted, approved or recommended by a "nominating committee" are void and unenforceable.

The use of nominating committees was primarily a method a developer used while the association was under developer control to control which candidates were elected to director positions.

Fines for non payment of annual dues. Again Section 209 requires HOA to adopt and record a collection policy regarding assessments, you cannot fine for non payment, but you can assess reasonable interest, and any costs associated with the attempts to collect.

If you already have Bylaws and CC&R's you need to look to those to determine what the requirements are for changing them. In other words most ByLaws and CC&R's may only be changed by a vote of the members. For Bylaws in our HOA it requires a majority of a quorum, but for CC&R's it requires the affirmative vote of 3/5ths of the membership.
JohnB78 (Texas)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Okay, so we are at like.. 60 lots? So, not over 100.. that puts us in a different category.

That being said, I think we can still follow a lot of the same guidelines and be fine.

The real issue would be a person owes like $100 for road fees. That is a lot of money when all we collect is $6000 a year.. heh. That can pay for something.
I think the section you defined gives a little wiggle room to be able to access more than the $100... try to make it more reasonable to pay it s not.

Okay, I think I am on to a path.

Thanks sir!

Russ
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
JohnB

Most have done away with nominating committees and allow any owner in good standing to run. Typically Bylaws allow nominations (including self nomination) from the floor at the Annual Meeting even if there is a nominating committee in the Bylaws.

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