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JeremyM2 (Georgia)
Posts: 4
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Our entire HOA is a developer run mess. The Neighborhood was founded in 2006 with 70 lots. The developer still owns 17 and hasn't turned over control to the owners. The """"" Homeowner's Association, Inc wasn't formed until 2010, but only registered until 2012, and was dissolved 12/31/2015 for what we're guessing is failure to maintain registration with the state.

Do we have a valid Homeowner's association? Because the developer has not kept the corporation current or active, is it now invalid?

It reads:

"ASSOCIATION" shall mean "" """ Homeowner's Association, Inc., a Georgia non-profit membership corporation which Developer shall cause to be incorporated for the purpose of succeeding to Developer's ownership of all Common Property and to Developer's administration and enforcement of this Declaration."

My question is, if the corporation is dissolved, how can it administer and enforce the declaration?

SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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Since the developer still has control of the community, did you start with asking them? What was the response?

If the response was silence or gobbledygook, your best bet is to go to an attorney - you're asking a legal question and we aren't attorneys. Take your documents with you (even if they appear to be expired).

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
SueW6 (Michigan)
Posts: 814
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Are you saying that the Annual Report was not registered with the State?

or that a letter was written to the IRS dissolving the corporation?

If it's just the annual report, you can pay a small penalty and get current as a corporation operating in the state.

If it's an IRS issue, then it gets complicated as an HOA with CCRs. File corporation papers ASAP.

JeremyM2 (Georgia)
Posts: 4
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When I look at the Georgia Corporations Division website and look up our HOA it says Business Status: ADMIN DISSOLVED.

Dissolved date: 12/31/2015

To the previous responder, asking any questions of the Developer generates a hostile, defensive, and uncooperative response.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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Hm, hostile gobbledygook - if they're working to reestablish the HOA, all they had to do is say so.

So, that leaves my other suggestion - talk to an attorney. I imagine you need to know the answer because you want to know what your rights and responsibilities will be once the homeowners take over, when exactly will that happen, what will the association be responsible for (the common areas), etc. Maybe they'll act right if they're contacted by the attorney.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JeremyM2 (Georgia)
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Posted By SheliaH on 03/22/2017 12:21 PM
Hm, hostile gobbledygook - if they're working to reestablish the HOA, all they had to do is say so.

So, that leaves my other suggestion - talk to an attorney. I imagine you need to know the answer because you want to know what your rights and responsibilities will be once the homeowners take over, when exactly will that happen, what will the association be responsible for (the common areas), etc. Maybe they'll act right if they're contacted by the attorney.

You're 100% correct. Talking to an attorney was the avenue we were leaning towards, but it's nice to hear it from an outside source.
JeremyM2 (Georgia)
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Posted By SheliaH on 03/22/2017 12:21 PM
Hm, hostile gobbledygook - if they're working to reestablish the HOA, all they had to do is say so.

I don't think they know that we know it's been dissolved. We just moved into the neighborhood in October, and January was the first meeting that has been held in over 3 years. After asking some general questions and getting firmly rebuffed, a few of us started digging a little more into the CC&R and the Georgia Property Owner's Association Act and found out the HOA corporation is dissolved. We honestly don't know what to do at this point other than get an attorney.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Jeremy,

Administratively dissolved typically means that the Association failed to file annual reports.
Rather then spend money talking with an attorney, contact the Corporation Commission and ask for paperwork to be reinstated.

The Association will likely have to pay a small monetary penalty and file some paperwork.

As for legality of the Association, you need to speak with a local attorney - I would suggest one versed in contract law.
Typically, the CC&Rs create the Association. In my opinion, since the CC&Rs were not dissolved, the Association still exists - it is simply an unincorporated Association.

This may be in violation of State statute. However, that statute would be a civil statute which is enforced by the parties involved. Nobody will go to jail. Any judgement would be against the Association, not the developer directly. Worst case, I suspect that a judge would order that the Association get administratively undissolved or incorporate anew. A lot of money for the same result that may be achieved by simply contacting the corporation commission.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
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Posted By TimB4 on 03/22/2017 1:30 PM
Jeremy,
Administratively dissolved typically means that the Association failed to file annual reports.
Rather then spend money talking with an attorney, contact the Corporation Commission and ask for paperwork to be reinstated.

The Association will likely have to pay a small monetary penalty and file some paperwork.

As for legality of the Association, you need to speak with a local attorney - I would suggest one versed in contract law.
Typically, the CC&Rs create the Association. In my opinion, since the CC&Rs were not dissolved, the Association still exists - it is simply an unincorporated Association.

This may be in violation of State statute. However, that statute would be a civil statute which is enforced by the parties involved. Nobody will go to jail. Any judgement would be against the Association, not the developer directly. Worst case, I suspect that a judge would order that the Association get administratively undissolved or incorporate anew. A lot of money for the same result that may be achieved by simply contacting the corporation commission.


Tim,

The OP quoted his CC&R's at the outset of this thread: "ASSOCIATION" shall mean "" """ Homeowner's Association, Inc., a Georgia non-profit membership corporation which Developer shall cause to be incorporated for the purpose of succeeding to Developer's ownership of all Common Property and to Developer's administration and enforcement of this Declaration."

There is no room in that clause for an unincorporated association and that is not what the homeowners bargained for. The developer imposed certain duties and responsibility upon himself and then failed to live up to his part of the deal.

I would advise consulting an attorney as it is not the job of the homeowners to do the developer's work. Reinstating a dissolved corporation can be very expensive and that expense should fall on the shoulders of the developer.

In some states (and maybe all) administrative dissolution does not terminate the corporation but does prevent the corporation from carrying on business as usual. In my state, a corporation that does not seek reinstatement may only engage in those activities to wind down the business. This HOA probably has no lawful authority to levy or collect assessments, issue fines, record liens, or seek foreclosure.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Posted By LarryB13 on 03/22/2017 4:26 PM

Reinstating a dissolved corporation can be very expensive and that expense should fall on the shoulders of the developer.

Per this website on reviving a Georgia Corp., the cost is $250

Per Georgia Corporations Division, one can do the form online and mail with check or submit payment with credit card.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Forgot to add that I agree with you that the expense should fall on the shoulders of the developer. Realistically, I don't think it will.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
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Posted By TimB4 on 03/22/2017 6:10 PM
Forgot to add that I agree with you that the expense should fall on the shoulders of the developer. Realistically, I don't think it will.

Depends whether or not they hold the Developer''s feet to the fire .

Jeremy ... In many states not being registered at this time just potentially means they cannot enforce issues or put a lien against any properties for non payment of dues until such time as they become compliant in the future. You need to refer to your State Statutes to see what can or cannot be done until your are again compliant with the State Law regarding registration.

I would recommend you review your governing documents and State Laws for your HOA and see when the Developer Control expires. If the Developer is no longer in control then follow your governing documents and State Law to call a meeting and elect a proper board to properly take care of your HOA.

LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
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Jeremy,

My advice would be to retain counsel for the purpose of having the HOA placed under a court-appointed receiver. As a party to the contract created by the CC&R's, you have the right to enforce the benefits of what you bargained for. Since the developer has not held up his end of the agreement and apparently responds with hostility, the court will likely assess all costs, including your attorney's fees, against the developer.

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