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MichaelB32 (California)
Posts: 141
Posted:
The update to Civid Code 4775 (http://www.davis-stirling.com/Main-Index/Statutes/Civil-Code-4775) that took effect on January 1, 2017, transfers ownership of “exclusive user common areas (EUCA)” from the HOA to the homeowner. I have a dilemma as to what the Architectural Committee can approve and what authority we can use when asking the homeowner to “return the unit to its original condition” when remodeling the the former EUCA.”

History
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Recently a new owner of a 3 bedroom upstairs unit relocated the “crawl space entrance” from the “walk-in closet” to “laundry room” He also open up a an exiting “coat closet” to allow a pulldown stairs to the attic from the “laundry room” to have access from the hallway. In the attic he reinforced the flooring, installed insulation and drywall, install recess lighting, rerouted/replaced ductwork and install new electrical receptacles. He also pieced to outside perimeter with new dryer vent duct and vent ducts around the existing attic louver vents to improve the efficiency to outside world. This attic space is about 200 square feet and one can easily stand up in it. He intends to put attic fans over the attic louver vents to make the space cooler.

Code Enforcement
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Non of this work was accomplished with City permits or permission of the HOA Architectural Committee. We stop this work by Code enforcement, where City Code (http://harbourvistanews.com/PlanningRemodeling/PDF/useOfAtticSpace.pdf) specifically applies for attic spaces. The drywall will have to be removed, floors must remain unfinished, only one light is allowed. The City levied additional fees because work was performed without permits. IT should be noted that the work was top rated and the owner is intending to make this unit a rental.

Architectural Committee
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At the Architectural Committee Meeting, we approved the remodeling as long as he meets City code. We even approved the the piercing to the outside walls if he painted them. But we asked him to put the “attic crawl space entrance” back to the “walk in closet”. I feel returning the “crawl space entrance” to its original condition is “Arbitrary and Conspicuous” and the Architectural committee need to retract this. The Committee’s reason is to make it difficult for a resident to access the attic. I do not think this is on solid ground as a reason. Being the spokesperson for the Architectural Committee, this is a difficult place to be in without appearing heavy handed.

Have any of you share your experiences with a similar issue and any advice would be appreciated?

Michael Barto
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JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Per your comments it appears you are a Condo??? If that is the case then what does your CCR's state is the Owner's space and what is the HOA''s responsibility?

Most condo CCR's I have seen and friends or family who live in them ... the Owner can pretty much do what they want inside their unit within their own space. Potentially relocating an access to the attic from a closet to a laundry room "inside" their unit possibly could be their owned space and right to make changes or update as they choose.

However, piercing the exterior walls or roof ... which potentially is HOA space and responsiblility is a different story and needs HOA approval.

Again, what do your governing documents state?
MichaelB32 (California)
Posts: 141
Posted:
JanetB2

Go to http://harbourvistanews.com/CCandRs/page25.html#SECT8.05 Section 8.05 Check the index also for other related material.

Michael Barto
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JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Section 8.05. Inside and Outside Installations. No outside installation of any type, including but not limited to a television or radio pole, antenna or clothesline shall be constructed, erected or maintained on any Residence, excepting antennas installed by Grantor as a part of the initial construction of the Project and except as may be installed by, or with the prior consent of the Architectural Committee. No patio or balcony covers, wiring, or installation of air conditioning, water softeners, or other machines shall be installed on the exterior of the buildings of the Project or be allowed to protrude through the walls or roof of the buildings, unless the prior written approval of the Architectural Committee is secured. Outdoor patio or lounge furniture, plants and barbeque equipment may be maintained pursuant to rules and procedures of the Architectural Committee. The type and color of all exposed window coverings shall be subject to the prior written approval of the Architectural Committee. Notwithstanding the specificity of the foregoing, no exterior addition, change or alteration to any Residence shall be commenced without the prior written approval of the Architectural Committee. Nothing shall be done in any Unit or in, on or to the Common Areas which will or may tend to impair the structural integrity of any building in the Project or which would structurally alter any such building except as otherwise expressly provided herein. There shall be no alteration, repair or replacement of wall coverings within Units which may diminish the effectiveness of the sound control engineering within the buildings in the Project. No interior wall in any of the buildings of the Project shall be pierced or otherwise altered in any way, without the prior approval of the Architectural Committee and a structural engineering analysis. No Unit Owner shall cause or permit any mechanic's lien to be filed against any portion of the Project for labor or materials alleged to have been furnished or delivered to the Project or any Condominium Unit for such Unit Owner. Any such Unit Owner shall immediately cause such lien to be discharged within five (5) days after notice to the Unit Owner from the Board. If the Unit Owner fails to do so, the Board may discharge the lien and charge the Unit Owner a Special Assessment for such cost of discharge after Notice and Hearing.

The above bold text notes that ACC approval is required along with structural engineering analysis. The Owner needs to obtain both
MichaelB32 (California)
Posts: 141
Posted:
JanetB2

There is overkill in this case. If the person is notching or piercing a beam, yes a structural engineering analysis is required. And the City would request that. I this case it is waved. But it is a interesting point. All this person is doing is putting in an exhaust vent. See the white and and unfinished areas in the photo. If the attachment does not work, go to

http://harbourvistanews.com/piercedVenting.png

Michael Barto
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