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IndieS (Colorado)
Posts: 79
Posted:
I attended my first board meeting as a new director last night. We voted for new officers and voted on a number of issues, the results of which could change based on who was allowed to vote. One of the Board members arrived with a proxy from another board member.

Our bylaws do not address the issue of board member proxies, and the legal team that the Board has used in the past his the following posted to their website:

When are Proxies Allowed?
Pursuant to the Colorado Common Interest Ownership Act (CCIOA), proxies are always allowed at membership meetings.  In other words, associations must allow owners to use proxies at membership meetings.

This rule, however, changes for board meetings.  Pursuant to the Colorado Revised Nonprofit Corp. Law (CRNCA), board members may only issue proxies if such authority is set forth in the bylaws.  If the bylaws are silent concerning board member proxies, board members cannot issue proxies for board meetings.  Even if the bylaws do allow directors to issue proxies for board meetings, CRNCA limits this authority by only allowing directed proxies to be issued and such issuance must be to another board member.  These limitations exist regardless of what the bylaws may provide.

http://www.hindmansanchez.com/resources/newsletter/proxies-nutshell/

So, in other words, the proxy votes from last night are invalid.

What is next? Does the vote from last night stand but we exclude the proxy vote? Do we need to reconvene another meeting? Do we have an email meeting clarifying how the absent member would have voted?

Ugh.

Thanks in advance.

KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
I think, Indie, that proxys aren't permitted in most HOAs in the USA. Based on what you provided, proxys can't be used at board meetings. This does mean that any vote taken, with a proxy being used, is not valid or the language might be voidable (not sure).

Now it might make sense to only make a motion to rescind or amend the decision previously made in cases where the proxy vote mattered. Once the board votes to rescind or amend, it then votes on a new motion about the agenda item.

When & how to do it? If the invalid decision involves something that must be done right away, like execute a contract, you'll need to call an emergency meeting to rescind or amend it. Other items could wait till your next regular meeting.

I think I've heard here that CO is an open meeting state and that might mean that the board may not meet online --unless an emergency. Emergency online meetings probably have their own rules in CA, e.g., the vote must be unanimous.

If you have a property mgr., where was s/he during this meeting?

If you're lucky, Janet or Roger--both of CO-will stop by to give your more accurate advice about CO laws.
IndieS (Colorado)
Posts: 79
Posted:
Thanks Kerry. From what I've been *told* by former board members, they believe that the valid votes from last night's meeting stand. In one instance, the vote will change from a 3/2 victory to a 2/2 tie. With a tie, the motion does not pass. I don't think we need to hold another vote in that case. My nonlegal helpers seem to think that there are no "do overs" in this case.
IndieS (Colorado)
Posts: 79
Posted:
And since I seem to have the attention span of a gnat, there is no property manager. We are a very small HOA - 20 homes.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
I've never heard of a proxy vote used for board meetings. They can be used at a homeowner's meeting, such as voting for board members or establishing quorum (or both), but if a board member doesn't come to a meeting, he/she is marked as absent and that's the end of that. If you have a quorum based on everyone else who's there, you go ahead and vote on the agenda or officers - this person simply missed his/her opportunity to vote. That should have been made clear when this board member showed up with this "proxy."

In short, this proxy is just a piece of paper and means nothing. If that board member wanted to participate, he/she either shows up or participates via webcam or phone, provided your documents allow this. I wouldn't make any decisions via email - it's not appropriate most of the time unless there's an emergency, and even then, I would expect this to be addressed in your documents. Whatever votes you took should stand - remind everyone of the proper use of proxies at the next regularly scheduled meeting.

Incidentally, has your board ever allowed "proxy votes" before? If not, why allow this now - if that board member or anyone else wants this, then bring the subject to the homeowners and they can VOTE to change the bylaws accordingly.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Of, course, Indie. Your helpers and Sheila are right--just throw out the proxy votes. Talk about overthinking on my part!
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
While it is about CA, it does mention other states:

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/jan/18/realestate/re-associations18
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
Indie,

As I understand it, your Board had a vote on Officer positions and, contrary to applicable statutes, the Board allowed one Director to vote by proxy. Had the proxy vote not been made, the results would have been different.

Expecting my understanding is correct, I see four options:

1) Inform the board of the issue and make a motion that the previous appointments be repealed.

2) Inform the Board of the issue but let things be as they are so long as the issue isn't repeated.

3) Inform the Board and see how the Board wants to handle it.

4) Do nothing - which I don't think is a good option, but it is still an option.

You have to decide which option works best for you.

If you didn't get the Officer position you wanted and think that you will get that position after bringing this info to the Board, then go ahead and choose option 1. Keep in mind that you may or may not alienate some directors,

If you are fine with the positions everyone was appointed to, then choose options 2 or 3. However, I think option 3 would be the best as it simply brings the issue to the Board and lets everyone discuss it and make a decision on how to proceed.

Let us know how it goes.

Tim
IndieS (Colorado)
Posts: 79
Posted:
What a helpful group of people! There was only one motion affected by the revised vote count. Everything is good and the other board members are OK with the changed votes.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
No proxy votes for BOD meetings . If missing a BOD member and have a tie vote, then potentially table that issue until next meeting.
SueW6 (Michigan)
Posts: 814
Posted:
Be sure whatever you do is clearly stated in the minutes, since minutes are the legal record of the association.

At the next meeting, I would have the first vote declared invalid and vote again. Since there was a tie on the issue, someone may be persuaded to change their vote.

Better safe than sorry, especially if this was a vote to spend money.

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