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AmyA1 (Washington)
Posts: 101
Posted:
How do you go about getting a signed instrument? Would a signature on a ballot work?

Section 3. Amendment. The covenants and restrictions of this Declaration shall run with and bind the land, and shall inure to the benefit of and be enforceable by the Association, and the owner of any lot subject to this Declaration, including the Developer, its respective legal representatives, heirs, successors and assigns. The covenants and restrictions of this Declaration may be amended by an instrument signed by not less than owners then owning seventy-five percent (75%) of the properties subject to this Declaration or any supplemental Declaration. Amendments shall take effect when they have been recorded with the Auditor of King County.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
yes, it should work.
However, you will need to check with an attorney (as I don't think the recorders office can assist you with that question).

When we amended our documents, we had a meeting with a sign in sheet.
Then a typical ballot (unsigned).
Our attorney then wrote a document where the President attested to the vote and that is what was filed with the amendments.

The Association then maintains the signature sheets and ballots (in case of a challenge).
AmyA1 (Washington)
Posts: 101
Posted:
Did you have absentee ballots? There is no way we could meet a simple 15% quorum let alone 75% vote without them.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
You might also want to ask your attorney if the signatures have to be notarized. You could hold a meeting where the amendment could be voted on and have a notary there to sign off on the signatures, or if you mailed out a document for signature, make sure the owners know they need to have it notarized. You can't sign the thing and then have a notary sign off on it because he/she has to see you do it - many banks have someone who's a notary and if you have an account there, you can have him/her take care of it (sometimes for free).

Sending out the form for signatures could take care of people who can't/won't attend the meeting (check the documents again to see if that's ok), but your real problem is participation or lack thereof (all too common in HOAs). If you can't meet a 15% quorum for a special meeting, you'll have twice as much trouble finding 75% of homeowners to actually vote (some won't do anything, regardless of what the amendment is for or whether they can vote yea or nay in person or absentee). You may have to go door to door to talk to people and make your case and then get them to sign.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Amy,

My own association has a similar amendment procedure and I disagree with Tim's advice. This is not an election and there is no voting.

You should print the text of the amendment, with references to any existing provisions that will be changed. On the same sheet should be signature lines for each owner to sign and date, along with his printed name and parcel number or address. If you have 100 members, for example, all 100 could sign one sheet or each could sign just one or some combination. (Recorders often charge by the page, so keep the number of pages down.)

One of the advantages of this amendment process is that there is usually no time constraint. We have one amendment that we tried for over five years to get enough signatures.

Since your CC&R's require "an instrument signed," holding an election would not meet that requirement, even though the language in some CC&R's allow precisely that.
DouglasM6 (Arizona)
Posts: 724
Posted:
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Posted By AmyA1 on 02/23/2017 7:00 AM
Did you have absentee ballots? There is no way we could meet a simple 15% quorum let alone 75% vote without them.

Careful not to confuse the quorum requirement with the 75% requirement. You will need 75%.

I have a situation similar to LarryB. I've been the president for three terms. We have been trying to get enough signatures to make a change since I took office. After looking through the archives of our association, I found the board has been trying to make changes (similar to our current proposals) for decades.

It's a tough process.

I put each proposal on a sheet of paper for each lot owner. Each form had the lot number, the existing verbiage, the proposed verbiage and boxes for 'yes' and 'no' with a signature line.

We have had the 2/3rd's requirement show up to the meeting and vote, actually more, just can't get the votes for the approval.

One thing I think helps to get people involved is to include a BBQ with the meeting.
AmyA1 (Washington)
Posts: 101
Posted:
We have been wanting to change it for years. Our CC&R are from 1980 and still reference the developer. We just revised the bylaws (vote on April 1st) and took out the clause that said we could only do secret ballot(although we will still practice that). We are hoping a signed ballot might help with the signature requirement. We will check with the attorney once we get to that point.

I don't understand why you say it's not a vote. Wouldn't the membership be voting on making the amendment?

We have 499 homes and over 15% of those are rentals. So getting enough people to show in person (and sign) at a meeting would be hard. I like the idea of no meeting. I've read the WA Act 5236 Section 312 (below). Which would give us about a year to get signed ballots back.

(6) Unless prohibited or limited by the declaration or organizational documents, an association may conduct a vote without a meeting. In that event, the following requirements apply:
(a) The association must notify the unit owners that the vote will be taken by ballot.
(b) The notice must state:
(i) The time and date by which a ballot must be delivered to the association to be counted, which may not be fewer than fourteen days after the date of the notice, and which deadline may be extended in accordance with (g) of this subsection;
(g) If the association does not receive a sufficient number of votes to constitute a quorum or to approve the proposal by the date and time established for return of ballots, the board may extend the deadline for a reasonable period not to exceed eleven months upon further notice to all members in accordance with (b) of this subsection. In that event, all votes previously cast on the proposal must be counted unless subsequently revoked as provided in this section.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
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Posted By AmyA1 on 02/24/2017 6:29 AM
I don't understand why you say it's not a vote. Wouldn't the membership be voting on making the amendment?


Your CC&R's set forth a specific method for amending the declaration. It requires a document signed by 75% of the property owners. There is no mention in what you cited about adopting an amendment through some other means, such as voting.

The law recognizes a principle known as "expressio unius est exclusio alterius," or the inclusion of one thing is the exclusion of all other things. In this case, the Declarant set forth a method for amending that excludes all other methods, including voting.

I suggest consulting with an attorney to avoid unnecessary controversy.

AmyA1 (Washington)
Posts: 101
Posted:
Ahhh... I see what you mean. I guess I am so used to thinking vote on everything. LOL

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