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PattyB1 (Kentucky)
Posts: 40
Posted:
I'm at a loss here.We had elections and and our new BOD took over on July1st,at least we were supposed to. I am the newly elected President,I was also VP of the previous board.So far, the past President and Treasurer have not turned over the bank account. The President was having all the monthly statements sent to his home instead of our POBox,which is why I never saw a statement. The Treasurer has put a "book" together with some statements in it, she never kept books, everything was in her personal computer. But they just don't have time to sign the signiture card right now. We're late with the invoices, and we can't write any checks untill we can access the account. The atty. says she can't do anything, just give them a few more weeks.I'm concerned if we're going to have anything left or maybe the're trying to put money back in there. Either way, how much time should we give them? Help please. Patty
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
You're attorney is incorrect. You most certainly can do something.

Have the attorney draft a letter to the treasurer asking for the following:

To ensure a timely transition of the day-to-day operations of the XXXXX Homeowners Association, please consider this official notice to provide the following documents and materials to this office within 5 business days of receipt of this letter:

All electronic and/or paper reports, transactions, records, or notes related to the financial operation of the XXX Homeowners Association.

All required signature cards for transition of bank authorizations.

Any and all copies, electronic or otherwise, of invoices, statements, or files relating to accounts payable or accounts receivable for the XXXX Homeowners Association.

Any and all copies, electronic or otherwise, of cancelled checks, deposit slips, and/or bank statements of any kind belonging to the Association.

Any and all copies, electronic or otherwise, of all tax returns or related documents filed on behalf of the Association.

Any and all copies, electronic or otherwise, of documents relating to any liens filed on behalf of the Association.

Failure to comply with the above requests could result in a lawsuit filed on behalf of the association to retrieve the above, which is not the personal property of former officers but the legal property of the Association.

All electronic material is to be supplied on either a computer disk or flash drive.

All material and documents requested are to be delivered to this office.

Please call if you have any questions.

[Attorney's name and contact info here]

We had a treasurer who did the same thing. We received the materials within 2 days.

By the way, since the bank account was set up for the Association, you do not need to have them sign the bank card. Simply take a copy of the minutes that show you are now the president and whoever is the treasurer and a copy of your by-laws to the bank. They should be able to transition the signature card that way. But you will need to go and meet with them in person.

Whatever you do, you need to ensure that the bank NOT accept any more checks with their signatures dated after the date of the election.

GloriaM (North Carolina)
Posts: 829
Posted:
Patty:

Bring the Minutes of the election/annual meeting to the bank with a Resolution showing the newly elected board members and the Bank Manager can change over the account.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
I agree with Michele "You're attorney is incorrect. You most certainly can do something." Why are you even using an attoney when there are cheaper and more effective means of getting what you need?

In Colorado banks accept checks with only one signature and that signature must be on the signature form. With regard to changing the signature authorization form, call your bank to see what they require. New signature forms can be obtained and often will be accepted when official minutes and copies of the new signee's drivers license are provided.

Any copies of past bank documents can be obtained from the bank and fincials can be reconstructed. I know because once I had to reconstruct all of the financials when the previous MC refused to give the HOA their documents.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Question? Why can't you sign as an additional person on the account? Instead of worrying about "turning over" see if you can be an additional signer. That may be an easier route to take. You may need proof your a board member if anything. If you have the bank's account number that would be more helpful. Plus see if you can change the address of the HOA to have the checks forwarded to the right place.

Former HOA President
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Melissa: I would not want to have the bank have signatories on the card who are not eligible to sign checks.

It's just as easy to get them removed with a copy of the minutes and by-laws.

Especially since, in this case, the association is concerned about misappropriate of funds to begin with.

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