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SusanS15 (South Carolina)
Posts: 9
Posted:
I live in South Carolina and I understand that there are no laws that offer any protection in an HOA. I live in a community that is still under construction, with the HOA being run by the builder until the very last home is built and sold in here. This will be a long way off, and it's also unusual in my experience with other HOA in two other states. Most builders will happily relinquish their HOA responsibilities considerably sooner.

The issue has been reoccurring since I moved here: our HOA documents don't force the builder or their hired property management company to provide a copy of the annual budget, unless it is specifically requested (and even then it's not always provided), and there is nothing that requires them to hold an annual meeting. After receiving an annual dues notice asking for the same (astronomical) amount of money as the past three years, even though the neighborhood has grown considerably, some residents had questions and concerns.

Our CCRs do allow for the residents to request a meeting concerning the budget via a petition, which we did. When we didn't receive a response or any acknowledgement after several weeks, I contacted our property manager, who told me that she passed it along to the builder but that they aren't required to hold an annual meeting. I explained to her that this wasn't a request for that type of meeting, but for a budget meeting, as outlined in the CCRs. I said we had done what was required per the documents and if the builder wasn't going to address it, I would contact the State Atty General's office. She said she would talk to the builder about it, and that was two weeks ago.

So, if I do contact the State Atty General, will they even listen to our complaint? We are a community over over 60 homes at this point, with many more to be constructed, and we have never had any kind of face-to-face meeting to discuss anything - budget, restrictions, violations, anything - ever. Submitting a petition was our only way to have this happen, according to our CCRs, but it appears the builder is going to ignore it.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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Builder's rules... Why not still have a meeting? Who says you have to invite the builder or PM? Seems to me if you are all waiting for turnover, why not put in place a "replacement committee". Best to be prepared to understand the rules, the budget, and the other struggles you will all face in the upcoming years/turnover.

Former HOA President
SusanS15 (South Carolina)
Posts: 9
Posted:
That is something that I have been considering presenting to my neighbors, but it doesn't help us with the fiduciary transparency we're seeking right now.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Unfortunately, the builder will probably be able to do whatever he/she wants until the community is turned over to the homeowners. When HOA bylaws and CCRs are originally written, they usually favor the builder – after the turnover, the initial HOA board of directors should have the documents reviewed by an attorney to delete references to the builder (changes to the bylaws and CCRs will also have to be approved by a majority of homeowners before they take effect).

I don’t know if there’s anything your AG’s Office can do, but it wouldn’t hurt anything to contact them anyway – they may keep the complaint in their records and that can help influence the legislature into passing some laws that can provide some protection. Get your neighbors to do the same and contact your state representatives while you’re at it.

Everyone should continue to pressure the builder – you might even contact local media. Stories of ignoring homeowners can turn off potential buyers (something this developer has forgotten apparently) – that can prompt the builder to at least start talking to you.

You’re correct it may be awhile before the homeowners take control of the community, but that shouldn’t stop you from educating yourself on how HOAs should be run (some of you may eventually want to be on that first board of directors). Look around on this board for conversations on how other people handled transitions from developer control and mistakes to avoid. You can also take a look at the community association institute website (CAI), which has educational materials on what homeowners should prepare for when the transition happens, as well as best practices afterwards. Good luck!

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
SusanS15 (South Carolina)
Posts: 9
Posted:
Thank you. Our frustration right now is that, while we are expected to conform to the rules and regulations, the builder doesn't feel that they need to do the same. I followed exactly what is stipulated in the CCRs, and they are ignoring it. I guess I will contact the AG, if for no other than a symbolic gesture.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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Posted By SusanS15 on 01/24/2017 9:06 AM
Thank you. Our frustration right now is that, while we are expected to conform to the rules and regulations, the builder doesn't feel that they need to do the same. I followed exactly what is stipulated in the CCRs, and they are ignoring it. I guess I will contact the AG, if for no other than a symbolic gesture.

Symbolic is all it will be. I assure you, Alan Wilson will do nothing. SC laws, rules, regulations, etc. are geared toward protecting the corporation (Declarant), not workers, owners, etc.

You might take a look at SC Articles Of Incorporation concerning Annual Meeting. I believe a corporation is required to have one. Even if they do, the Declarant is still in control and can pretty well do as they wish.

The majority of HOA problems are as yours are. When the Declarant is in control, it is usually bend over and grab your ankles time. Be thankful your dues/assessments have remained the same for 3 years. If the Declarant wanted to put it to you, they could have with increases.

JeffT2 (Iowa)
Posts: 880
Posted:
Well, I have to disagree with those who say you do not have much in the way of protections and must do what the declarant says. Your association is probably a nonprofit corporation. You can search for the name of your hoa (including shorter name variations) here:

https://businessfilings.sc.gov/BusinessFiling/Entity/Search

If you are a nonprofit, there are protections in the law. Let us know and I can provide more info.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
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Susan,

Regardless of what your CC&R's require, if your association is incorporated whoever is running it must comply with state corporate law. Most state non-profit corporation laws require at least one annual meeting of the members. As a member you may also be entitled by corporation law to review the finances. Look into it.

BTW, the most important lesson I have learned from this forum is to never buy into a brand new development. No matter what the developer's intent was when they started, a lot of things can and do go wrong.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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IF your Association is incorporated (and that does not always occur during Declarant control)as a nonprofit, then SC nonprofit laws would be applicable.

http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t33c031.php

Your requests should include citations of your own governing documents (In accordance of Article xx Section xx of the [name of document]), and any applicable laws, (and per SECTION 33-31-xxx of the South Carolina Nonprofit Corporation Act of 1994). This demonstrates that you have done your homework and may have the Declarant take notice.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
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Posted By LarryB13 on 01/24/2017 11:49 AM

BTW, the most important lesson I have learned from this forum is to never buy into a brand new development. No matter what the developer's intent was when they started, a lot of things can and do go wrong.

LOL ... Larry that is in most states a very true statement. In my state I (even though been screwed and dealt with developer) possibly would buy in another new development. However, that would only be because I now know some violations of CCIOA and CCR's can be criminal law violations. I now know exactly what to look for in those sale disclosure documents.

Susan ... as most others have stated you need to rely on Contract Law ... or possibly Real Estate Law. You might look at laws under your State's Real Estate Statute of Frauds.

Your State Legislators this year are looking at implementing laws for HOA's. I suggest you and your neighbors try to get yourselves and other HOA's involved. The more input your legislators receive regarding various issues hopefully the better laws they may enact. You need to make sure they address the issue of Developer Control.

http://www.thestate.com/news/state/article54217830.html
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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Susan
SC Title 33 - Corporations, Partnerships and Associations

CHAPTER 31

South Carolina Nonprofit Corporation Act
ARTICLE 7

Members Meetings and Voting

Subarticle A

Meetings and Action Without Meetings

SECTION 33-31-701. Annual and regular meetings.

(a) A corporation with members shall hold a membership meeting annually at a time stated in or fixed in accordance with the bylaws.

(b) A corporation with members may hold regular membership meetings at the times stated in or fixed in accordance with the bylaws.

(c) Annual and regular membership meetings may be held in or out of this State at the place stated in or fixed in accordance with the bylaws. If no place is stated in or fixed in accordance with the bylaws, annual and regular meetings must be held at the corporation's principal office.

(d) At the annual meeting:

(1) The president and chief financial officer shall report on the activities and financial condition of the corporation; and

(2) Unless this chapter or the articles of incorporation or bylaws require otherwise, notice of an annual meeting need not include a description of the purpose for which the meeting is called.

(e) At regular meetings, the members shall consider and act upon matters as raised consistent with provisions of the articles of incorporation or bylaws and, in addition, with the notice requirements of this chapter.

(f) The failure to hold an annual or regular meeting at a time stated in or fixed in accordance with a corporation's bylaws does not affect the validity of a corporate action.

HISTORY: 1994 Act No. 384, Section 1.
SusanS15 (South Carolina)
Posts: 9
Posted:
The HOA is listed as a non-profit in the link JeffT2 provided, and is incorporated.

I received a response from the State AG. Part of their response said: "As HOAs are uniquely self-policing among nonprofit corporations, most concerns pertaining to these organizations are addressed through private attorneys and private litigation." I can present it to my neighbors, but I can take a guess right now that they will not want to pay for an attorney.

I have also read the Code of Laws provided by others in this thread, and the Board and property management seem to be trying to avoid an annual meeting with this paragraph:

"The first meeting of the association, whether a regular or special meeting, shall be held within one year from the closing of the first home or when 25% of the homes in the Community have been sold, whichever is later...Subsequent regular and annual meetings shall be set by the Board on a date and at a time set by the Board in its sole discretion."

I don't know the exact number of homes planned for the community. but even if it is 300, we are either at or very near 25% of that. The model office is just a few house up the street from me; I can easily go there today and find out the total number.

I know, from being on the Board in the neighborhood where I used to live in SC, that the by-laws supersede the CCRs and that state laws supersede everything.

Since the builder won't hold an annual meeting,I was trying to get a meeting under this paragraph concerning the budget that is in our CCRS:

"The budget and General Assessment shall become effective unless disapproved at a meeting by at least 67% of the total vote of the Association and by the Declarant, so long as the Declarant owns any property described...The Board shall have no obligation to call such a meeting unless a petition for a special meeting is presented to the Board within 10 days of the delivery of the notice of the General Assessment."

The builder and the property manager have chosen to ignore the petition that was submitted to them. I suppose I can press the property manager on the state law requiring an annual meeting of a corporation, but if they chosen to blatantly ignore one part of the CCRs, then I have no doubt state law won't matter to them either.

JeffT2 (Iowa)
Posts: 880
Posted:
The nonprofit law has a number of requirements for the builder when running the HOA-corporation, and it also has a number of tools for you as a member of the HOA (whether the HOA is controlled by a builder or not, you are still a member).

You can also offer to help the builder, and that may be more effective than legal confrontations. In any case, it helps to know the law to back up any interaction you have with the builder and the appointed board members.

The SC Nonprofit law requires the corporation to keep financial records, and grants you the right to inspect those records (SECTION 33-31-1602. Inspection of records by members), with some restrictions. This can be used to inspect the financial records to see where the money is going.

If the HOA refuses inspection of records, then you can ask your attorney to write a request and explain the law and consequences. The law has a somewhat simplified procedure for applying to a local court (as opposed to a full lawsuit) to force inspection of the records and to get your attorney fees reimbursed from the HOA. (Admittedly, I have never done this, but it sounds simpler than getting a injunction.)

The nonprofit law also provides (SECTION 33-31-830. General standards for directors) that board members and officers must act in good faith and must act in the best interest of the corporation. The law also defines conflict of interest financially (SECTION 33-31-831. Director conflict of interest.). In other words, the builder cannot just do whatever s/he wants if it is not in the best interest of the HOA, especially for financial payments, which seems to be one of your concerns.

Again, good to know the law, but even better to make friends with the builder.

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