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RickiS (Florida)
Posts: 3
Posted:
I just resigned from my HOA board. One of my duties was to interview new owners/renters with anther board member. The board president appointed someone to take my place (my term doesn't end til Dec. 2017). He appointed his wife (not a board member) to do interviews, along with the board member that did interviews with me. Is this legal, ethical, etc.?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
My question is why are you even interviewing homeowners or renters anyways? Are they going to go to jail for violating the "law"? Or just face a lawsuit of which suing your HOA is suing yourself and your neighbors to protect what?

Former HOA President
DanM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 23
Posted:
Me, too. I would love to know the purpose of these interviews.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Many old Covenants have in them that the association does have right of first refusal on a sale. Meaning the association can buy the unit for the agreed upon sales price. This was done so an association could eliminate any "undesirable" purchasers. Personally I would hate to have to defend this in court.

It might well be the interview process is left over from the right of first refusal or for that matter, part of it. Again, not something I would like to defend in court.
RickiS (Florida)
Posts: 3
Posted:
It is one of those things that has always been done. We do not refuse any buyer or renter. There is an application fee and the interview is a part of the application. We actually go over the rules and answer any questions the people might have.
That being said, can anyone answer the question asked.
ND (PA)
Posts: 792
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By RickiS on 01/11/2017 9:53 AM
It is one of those things that has always been done. We do not refuse any buyer or renter. There is an application fee and the interview is a part of the application. We actually go over the rules and answer any questions the people might have.
That being said, can anyone answer the question asked.

Answers to your questions are contained in your own governing documents. You need to check there, specifically for reference to "Board Member Vacancies".

Here's what's typical from my PA perspective though:
- Your resignation from the Board created a vacancy on the Board that can be filled IAW the docs.
- A vacancy can typically be filled by a decision of the Board to appoint someone to that position at an appropriately called/noticed meeting.
- The person appointed to that position may typically be any eligible member of the HOA.
- They typically fill the position for the duration of your term or until the next election (as specified by the docs).

Assuming the above is accurate for your HOA . . .
- The President alone cannot appoint someone to the Board . . . it is a decision to be made by the Board at an appropriately called/noticed meeting.
- If the President's wife is an eligible member of the HOA, then her appointment to the Board is permissible.
- A lawyer needs to answer to legality, but it's likely that if an appointment complies with all aspects of your docs, then it's legal.
- Whether it's ethical is another question altogether and is completely dependent upon the situation in your HOA and the conduct of the President and his wife.

KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Sure, Rich, let's stick with your question.

I agree with ND, but open meetings of the board are required in FL (but not in PA). So the appointment of the Prez's wife would need to occur in an open meeting via a vote of the Board.

OR...is there something IN your docs, probably in your bylaws, Rick, OR via a board resolution that presidents can make such appointments????

It seems to me the Board should have made a call for the replacement and permitted other owners to apply. Welcoming new residents, helping them understand your rules, in person, seems like a nice custom.
RickiS (Florida)
Posts: 3
Posted:
thanks for the responses. the wife is NOT a part of the HOA. the person appointed to take my place for the duration of my term was not given the responsibilities that i had (i was in charge of roads and interviews). the new person will take care of roads and the president's wife was appointed (as a memeber of the community, not the board) to be part of the interview process. reeks of nepotism!
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Not to sound cold hearted but facts are facts... You resigned and now you get what you get... Sorry not what you want to hear. However, if you don't like the situation doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It wouldn't if you had not left. Now you know what would happen when and if you left. Don't like it? Then either get over it or get back to it.

Former HOA President
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By RickiS on 01/11/2017 9:53 AM
It is one of those things that has always been done. We do not refuse any buyer or renter. There is an application fee and the interview is a part of the application. We actually go over the rules and answer any questions the people might have.
That being said, can anyone answer the question asked.


Ricki,

Having HOA personnel "answering questions" for new owners sounds dangerously close to giving legal advice. That is, the HOA is telling a new member what his obligations and rights are. That information is found in state law and your governing documents. It may sound cruel but the smartest thing to do is to let the owner find his own answers using his own attorney should he need that much information.

My understanding is that the Florida Bar has been on the warpath for several years with non-attorney HOA managers who hand out legal advice. The "interview" comes dangerously close to the unauthorized practice of law and should be handled by your association's attorney.

KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
I tried to reply to your original question, Ricki; your turn to reply to mine (above, too): Do your bylaws say that the board fills board vacancies when someone resigns?? Or not?

Do your Bylaws or some other doc say the president appoints special assignments, like this interviewer?

Yes, it reeks of nepotism and, again, see my reply above.

IMO, Melissa's remarks on this topic should be ignored, Ricki.

While I see Larry's point, I don't think that sitting with a new resident and going over the HOA's rules & regs is anywhere close to "legal advice."
FredS7 (Arizona)
Posts: 927
Posted:
> We do not refuse any buyer or renter.

If there are no consequences to the "interview," I don't see that it matters who does it.

Perhaps you should just call it an orientation or informational meeting. And make it optional.

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