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JerryD5 (Colorado)
Posts: 218
Posted:
At our last annual meeting in October, the board stuck around afterwards to come up with a schedule of quarterly meetings for the upcoming year. We established 4 meetings (Dec '16, Mar '17, Jun '17, Sept '17). I assumed everyone wrote the meeting dates down (I put mine in my phone that syncs with my desktop).

Fast foward to Dec and our scheduled meeting date/location. 3 board members showed up with 2 absent. Our management company also did not show. We held our meeting since we had a quorum of board members. It was a relatively short meeting since we were lacking some financial information but did discuss a few topics.

As it turns out, the managment company said she lost her entire computer system that had any past meeting notes and our meeting schedule and apparently forgot there was a meeting scheduled. One board member didn't attend because he has a new job and a new baby in the household. I haven't heard from the other board member on why he didn't attend.

The management company contacted me today and profusely apologized for not attending. I can't fault her for losing her computer and calendar. However, she said because she was unaware of the meeting, it was never publicized the date/time to the homeowners. We never have homeowners attend but we want to follow our bylaws for publicizing meetings dates/times. She said we must meet in Jan to make up for this missed meeting. My thoughts is put out a notice to homeowners, "sorry, due to a miscommunication the qtrly meeting date/time/location was not sent out. We apologize. Our next meeting is in March 2017." She is adamant about having a make up meeting.

What would you all do?
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Fire her.

She is not a professional as she does not back up her computer. Under no circumstances should that be acceptable. She should have backed up your data at least once a week and stored it off-site. Make sure your next management company has a written policy in its contract about backing up your data.

KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
I assume a certain notice period and agenda is required in your bylaws or in CO, right? If so, I think she's just trying to protect you directors since you didn't follow the law/and or your docs.

I think I'd publicize & hold a board meeting in january, especially if CO requires a open forum for Owners to speak.
DonnaR5
Posts: 162
Posted:
It certainly doesn't hurt to hold a January meeting. Publicize it, hold the meeting, and get something useful done.
RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 3,868
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LarryB13 on 12/14/2016 10:51 AM
Fire her.

She is not a professional as she does not back up her computer. Under no circumstances should that be acceptable. She should have backed up your data at least once a week and stored it off-site. Make sure your next management company has a written policy in its contract about backing up your data.


Think that is a little extreme to say the least. I have my management software in the cloud, but meetings and schedules are on Outlook. Sorry to say this, but computers do crash. I am sure that EVERY management company has in their agreement a policy for backing up their data. Does yours?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
I'd make note of it in the following meeting and move forward.

Error do occur.
It's when errors are covered up, vs. acknowledged, that people get upset.

Also, publish your meeting dates for the year (since you have them) now in your newsletter or website.
JeffT2 (Iowa)
Posts: 880
Posted:
It depends on what was voted on at the meeting. If you approved a budget with higher assessments for the new year, or voted to authorize a foreclosure, then you probably should have another properly noticed open meeting in January to make those decisions valid and enforceable.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
If you had a quorum, I don't see why you need a make up meeting. For the most part, the meeting should be able to go on even if the manager isn't there. Besides, it sounds like you didn't do much anyway because some financial information wasn't available. Discussions are nice, but if no decisions were made, you're probably ok. That said, I think your thought on publishing a notice to the homeowners is fine - you should summarize what was done just to keep everyone in the loop.

As for the management company's computer, I would definitely have a discussion with them about backing up data - that's something anyone with a computer should be doing on a regular basis (suppose vital financial information got lost with the meeting notes?)

Finally, I understand the board member with the new baby and new job, but it is still a matter of professionalism to contact the president and let him/her know one might not attend. The other board member also owes you an explanation - it's ok if you had an emergency or a personal/professional conflict erupted (stuff happens), but what would irk me is a response like "uh, I forgot." That's why day planners and calendars were invented!

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JerryD5 (Colorado)
Posts: 218
Posted:
Thanks for everyone's input. As for the make up meeting, I am against it since we did have a quorom. We didn't vote on anything earth shattering. We discussed a homeowner's holiday decoration request, accepted our lawyer's fee schedule for next year (its pay for services as we need them) and addeed a clause to our snow removal contract that our contracter was asking for. None of the discussions involved paying out more money.

I want to add a blurb to our next newsletter (due out in Jan) admitting/apologizing for our mistake about the missed published meeting.

SueW6 (Michigan)
Posts: 814
Posted:
If your meetings were published in a newsletter at the beginning of the year to homeowners, then don't apologize for anything. You kept your schedule. Besides, you said you had a quorum. Remember, this is a BOARD meeting.

Consider it done - and begin the new year.

PS Encourage your secretary to send out a reminder to Board members before the meeting.

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