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JennB1 (Maryland)
Posts: 3
Posted:
I'm hoping someone can help me here. I live in a townhome community but we are considered a condominium neighborhood and live in townhouses that are called units, so that's the first tricky part that may determine some things. We've got an individual who is a guest of a resident (an actual homeowner) of the neighborhood. This individual is homeless, lives in his car and has been recently seen using heroin in his car. We've contacted the HOA who contacted an officer in the neighborhood and was basically told there is nothing we can do, he's a guest of the homeowner. I know this isn't the case. He's in the common area of the neighborhood, the road. If he was a guest, then go into the home of the resident. He's been there for months! The officer said they cannot bar him from the property cause it's private property, got that. But the HOA can correct? The HOA can file a no trespass order and have it served by the Sheriffs office to this person. Am I was off?? Any thoughts, questions or advice would be greatly appreciated!
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
The HOA isn't the police nor has any policing authority. Call the police if you see a law broken. It doesn't have to be a HOA issue. Get your own restraining order if you don't want the person near ya. Don't look at the HOA to resolve this issue. It's legal issue.

Former HOA President
MichelleK5 (New York)
Posts: 161
Posted:
If the streets are part of your HOA, and he's parked his car permanently on a private street, then I think it's part of the HOAs problem and someone needs to contact the proper authorities and have
his car towed.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Have you talked to the HOMEOWNER about any of this? Are you sure the man was shooting up heroin (perhaps it was insulin or some other medication?)

If the man's not breaking the law (if he is shooting heroin, call the police) or making a nuisance (e.g. harassing the neighbors), there may not be much you can do. If he's homeless, perhaps someone could call Adult Protective Services to check it out.


If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Jenn,

Contact the police. They will investigate anyone sleeping in a vehicle or potential drug use.

LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Jenn,

In a condo, the association owns no real estate. The common areas are owned jointly by all the unit owners. Your association, as a non-owner, has no authority to take action against a visitor. You, however, by virtue of having a property interest, have some standing to demand that this person leave. You should call the police directly, report what you have seen, and demand that they remove this person from the property.

The trespasser may claim to have been invited by one of your fellow owners so someone will have to verify that statement. If, in fact, he is an invitee there may be little you can do unless you are willing to initiate legal action against the owner who invited him onto the property.

BobD4 (up north)
Posts: 1,002
Posted:
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Posted By SheliaH Have you talked to the HOMEOWNER about any of this ? Are you sure the man was shooting up heroin (perhaps it was insulin or some other medication? . . If he's homeless, perhaps someone could call Adult Protective Services to check it out.

JennB1Md: Whether or not this is a medical/addiction issue better addressed sympathetically by health professionals, the condo corporation respectfully may well have statutory duties to 'manage' the common elements regardless of ownership in common ( as in my jurisdiction).

1 - A hospice it doesn't have to be, however unfortunate the human aspects.

2 - The police may be comfortable with off-siting homelessness and/or addiction into the common element, but I would be uncomfortable with the possibility of youngsters seeing a daily pattern that might culminate in overdose or death. If it is untreated addiction is this the scenario that should unfold without some health intervention ?

3 - The corporation's duties may justify include upgrading the lighting levels, hiring periodic arms-length private security /issuing trespass notices, reducing areas that sound a little too private already etc . . . .

4 - You were asked about the occupant linked to the vehicle parker ? If the occupant disavows, what right would the vehicle parker have even being on the common element at all ?
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Now that you mention it Bob, I recall when I was on the board we did have a situation where a homeowner’s sister was literally living in her car which would sometimes be parked in her parking space or in one of the visitor parking spots.

I don’t remember the particulars now, but some of the neighbors noticed and it made them nervous because the lady and her boyfriend would sleep dress (and undress) and sometimes fight in front of everyone. Whatever went down between the sisters was enough that the owner wouldn’t even allow the sister in her home.

Anyway, our association owns the parking lot and our security officer (also an off duty cop) told our president he could file a complaint and the lady could be cited for trespassing since she wasn’t an owner. The president and security officer then went to the owner and discussed the matter – soon after that, the woman and her car disappeared and that was that.

Apparently, the fact the the association owned the lot was enough to warn the homeowner about creating a nuisance or something and that's how the problem was resolved. Maybe JennB should talk to the cops again (maybe some sort of a community relations person this time) and they can come up with a solution.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JennB1 (Maryland)
Posts: 3
Posted:
so the police were already called and it's not in their authority to tell the person to leave because it's private property and it is an HOA issue. So thanks
JennB1 (Maryland)
Posts: 3
Posted:
Thanks for all the help! This is actually the best answer thus far. We've already called the police and are working closely with them and the HOA to get the problem resolved. We've gotten the States Attorney's office involved and are hoping to get the gentleman served with a no trespass order. We've researched some case law and are hoping with the help of the SAO we can get him out of our neighborhood for good.
Thanks again for all the help! Really appreciate it. Just trying to keep our neighborhood safe!

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