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JamL (Florida)
Posts: 5
Posted:
Sorry if this is a bit wordy. I have an involved question, and I didn't know where else to turn for advise prior to paying a lawyer.

Our association is in the process of voting to eliminate short term rentals.

My contention is that this process has been done incorrectly, therefore everything done thus far, including the vote and the amendment is null and void. Below are some of the issues I have with the current (soon to be singed at the county office) bylaw.

1. The bylaws are clear that all meeting must be open. - The board was having secret meetings about this. Including up to the point of deciding the amendment, and to mail out the ballot.

1B. The bylaws are specific in stating, any meeting that discusses bylaw changes in any way, must be posted in the community for 2 weeks with this as an agenda item. This never happened.

1C. The date of the "secret meeting" to mail out the ballots was June 1. Some ballot dates were before June 1.

The reason I know this is because I am NOW the secretary and have access to these files.

2. The deciding ballot making the minimum for passage was not signed. It was a typed name as a claimed email. There was not accompanying email. All that was handed it was the ballot with the name typed on it. The board president said she was trying to contact this member for 2 months unsuccessfully. At the time of counting the member who secured and members whose name was on the ballot were each missing from the meeting.

3. In addition to number 2, I was able to contact the husband of the assumed owner and he was not open to altering the rental bylaws (he is an owner who rents).

4. Also to the above, their has since been an email to surface that the assumed owner asks if she needs to sign this, and the other members says you probably should - but that never happens.

5. Board coercion to try to force this through. I personally have been retaliated against because I voted NO. The board took 2 months to get financial documents to me that I needed for a potential buyer of my home. I lost the sale because no one wants to wait 2 months for a financial statement... I have the board member on a voice recording saying I need to get along with my neighbors, this is board retaliation... I should've signed the documents...

5B. A new home owner was lied to about the scope of the regulation. They thought it was about vacation properties, not that they could not rent their house on occasion. The then board treasurer stood with them while they signed it in the open...

My contention is this is an invalid bylaw. The other 4 members on the board are in favor of this amendment change so they are willing to look the other way to get what they want.

I will need to get a lawyer to fight this, but I am looking for opinions if this is something that I am correct in my thinking that this amendment is not valid. I need to spend my own money on this, and I am obviously biased. I am writing here looking for objective opinions.

Please advise.

All comments are welcomed.

Kindly
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
If your bylaws dictate how amendments are to be done and you compared the steps this board took against what actually happened, you may have something. I’m particularly concerned about the “secret meetings” – since homeowners have to vote on this stuff, they should have the information to make an informed decision. It’s ok to vote against a proposal, but the voting process has to be fair. Otherwise, the association risks another homeowner or several suing over this and if they win, the judgement could be very expensive – and that money ultimately comes from the homeowners (increased assessments, special assessments or both)

That being said, what’s the general community attitude towards short term rentals? If most people voted in favor (crappy processes notwithstanding), there may be lots of pushback against you, including the other board members saying you’re just upset because you voted no and couldn’t sell your house. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t pursue this, but you need to anticipate people questioning your ulterior motives. So be clear on why you’re doing this.

We aren’t attorneys so ultimately you’re going to have to sit down with one to review your options and decide how far you want to go. In the meantime, you may want to ask around and see if there are other homeowners who are concerned about the voting process. They may even be willing to join you in a lawsuit – not that it’ll end that way, but this may become a nasty fight and the more people who can join you, the better.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
FredO1 (Florida)
Posts: 18
Posted:
JamL:

I'm a Florida lawyer (Orlando area). Over the years I've litigated dozens of case involving questions of validity of HOA amendments.

First of all, if the HOA wants to ban short term rentals, amending a bylaw isn't going to cut it. They need to amend the covenants and restrictions. Bylaws control the operational procedures of the HOA. See Section 1.8 ("Bylaws") of Dunbar and Dudley's "The Law of Florida Homeowners Associations." Bylaws are not intended to restrict a homeowner's use of his property. That's what the covenants and RESTRICTIONS are for. That an HOA would try to indirectly amend the covenants and restrictions by amending the bylaws has been tried before (and failed). See the case of Westwood Community Two Association, Inc. v. Lewis, 687 So.2d 296 (Fla. 2d DCA 1997).

Second, chances are your covenants and restrictions detail a specific method by which they can be amended. Most I've seen require the execution (meaning notarized signatures) and recording of a single document making the amendment by the owners of a majority or super-majority (e.g. 2/3's) of the lots affected.

Third, there is a lot of case law in the State of Florida which implies a limitation on such amendments to the effect that amendments must be consistent with the "original scheme of development." See the case of Holiday Pines Property Owners Association, Inc. v. Wetherington, 596 So.2d 84, 87 (Fla. 4th DCA 1992). As for whether a particular amendment is consistent with the original scheme of development, each case is different. For example, if the developer sold units in part on the pitch that investors could buy units to use as short term rentals, then the HOA is going to have a hard time showing a short term rental ban is consistent with the ORIGINAL scheme of development. As an aside, a lot of HOA boards of directors think that an HOA is like a mini-municipality where a majority of owners should be able to shape or re-shape the community however they want. That is wrong thinking.

Fourth, there is a ton of case law in Florida favoring a property owners' free and unrestricted use of his own property. That means that any ambiguity in your governing documents will be construed in favor of allowing homeowners to use their properties as short term rentals if they want. Take a look at the case of Orlando Lake Forest Joint Venture v. Lake Forest Master Community, 105 So.3d 646, 648 (Fla. 5th DCA 2013).

Good luck to you.

Fred O'Neal
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Based on my research in Arizona, Fred is right on the money. You cannot create property restrictions by amending the bylaws. See WILSON v. PLAYA DE SERRANO at
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/az-court-of-appeals/1485688.html

The only thing I would add is that in AZ, an amendment to the CC&R's may not add unforeseeable burdens to the property owners. See DREAMLAND VILLA COMMUNITY CLUB INC v. RAIMEY at
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/az-court-of-appeals/1519074.html

FredO1 (Florida)
Posts: 18
Posted:
LarryB is right. I should have added that Fifth consideration. Florida law is consistent with Arizona in that there is an additional requirement that an amendment may not materially change the burdens on the existing community members unless they are apprised of that possibility by the original declaration. See the case of Flescher v. Oak Run Associates, Ltd., 111 So.3d 929 (Fla. 5th DCA 2013), citing Restatement (Third) of Property, Section 6.21 (2000).
JamL (Florida)
Posts: 5
Posted:
Thank you for the very through reply.

1. It's in the declaration, not the Bylaws, I used it as generic term. Sorry for the confusion.

2. The declaration is specific in the steps of the process and all such meetings must be made public with the agenda posted on the property 14 days prior to the meeting. This did not happen on any of the 3 meetings. 1 board meeting was just board members who devised the entire plan idea to verbiage and mailing. Second was A request by me to have a meeting. They E-mailed out the info for the meeting, I and many others never got it - still not posted in the community. The 3rd was at the annual meeting where this was not posted as an agenda item which confirmed the passing of this ballot.

3. I am outspoken about this, and against it. And I have since had a lot of push back including the prior board dragging their feet on getting me financial documents the potential buyer would need to purchase the property (took 2 months - HOA documents require 10 days).

4. Many in the community are in favor of the rental restriction, but not all. There are a few short and long term rentals in the community - and have been there for almost the entire existence of the community.
JamL (Florida)
Posts: 5
Posted:
I'm a lay-man. I'm a Nurse practitioner. Worked in surgery for 15 years... I don't understand a lot of "legal talk" What does it mean when you write: ...there is an additional requirement that an amendment may not materially change the burdens on the existing community members unless they are apprised of that possibility by the original declaration.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JamL on 10/20/2016 2:56 PM
I'm a lay-man. I'm a Nurse practitioner. Worked in surgery for 15 years... I don't understand a lot of "legal talk" What does it mean when you write: ...there is an additional requirement that an amendment may not materially change the burdens on the existing community members unless they are apprised of that possibility by the original declaration.


The Dreamland Villa case, referred to previously, is a good example. The developer built the subdivisions one section at a time over many years, and each section had its own CC&R's although all were pretty much the same. Somewhere around the 18th section, the developer built a community activities club and began requiring membership in it. The association subsequently approved amendments to all existing CC&R's to require the same membership in the community activities club. Those who objected and did not pay for the club membership were sued. The Court found that the amended CC&R's had no provisions in them that would lead a reasonable person to believe that if he purchased a home that he would someday also be required to pay for a club membership. The Court found that the new requirement to pay for a club membership in addition to HOA assessments was a material burden for which there was no prior notice.

LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LarryB13 on 10/20/2016 5:28 PM
The Court found that the amended CC&R's had no provisions in them that would lead a reasonable person to believe that if he purchased a home that he would someday also be required to pay for a club membership. The Court found that the new requirement to pay for a club membership in addition to HOA assessments was a material burden for which there was no prior notice.


Should read:

The Court found that the original CC&R's had no provisions in them that would lead a reasonable person to believe that if he purchased a home that he would someday also be required to pay for a club membership. The Court found that the new requirement to pay for a club membership in addition to HOA assessments was a material burden for which there was no prior notice.
SherrilH (Idaho)
Posts: 12
Posted:
I don't know if this will help you as we're not in the same state, but something you may want to look into. I was in your place in June....a board that wanted to totally eliminate rentals, but grandfather in those who were already renting their homes (6 total out of 40). The homeowners had no idea this was even being discussed until the ballot was sent to us. I was not in favor of passing "no rentals at all" and brought forth other suggestions and asked that this topic be discussed at our annual meeting with all of the homeowners. Long story short, 2 of us discovered a House Bill that had been passed in our state in March of this year. The unfortunate part is that the Property Manager did not know about this, and since this conversation began with myself, the board & the PM, many hard feelings have transpired. Below you will see the wording of the House Bill 511 that was passed in March. In order to change our CC&R's to allow no rentals....100% of the homeowners would have needed to vote yes.

I bring this up, so that you might contact your state legislature...just in case you have something like this that others are not aware of:

HOUSE BILL 511 - Statement of Purpose:

"This legislation protects the private property rights of Idaho homeowners by ensuring their right
to rent their property is preserved. The legislation states that if a homeowner bought a home at a
time when renting the home was allowed by a Homeowner's Association (HOA), the HOA may not
create new Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions (CCR's) that change the existing right to rent
without written consent of the homeowner. This would not impact CCR's that were in place prior
to the time a homeowner purchased the property."
JamL (Florida)
Posts: 5
Posted:
Florida does have similar laws. The new amendment is "Grandfathered in" to current owners so long as the home owner voted NO. If they voted YES then they consented to the new amendment. If they purchase the property after the ratification, they also consented...

My question however has to do with what my legal options are because the procedures required to alter the declaration, where the current no rental restriction is noted, was not followed. I feel this was passed in an illegal manner therefore this is not a valid amendment as voted on.

I was looking for any unbiased opinions if I have a valid legal claim before spending money on lawyers.

MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
I will tell you what our lawyer told us... You can NOT limit rentals in a HOA UNLESS the HOA owns ALL the properties. Otherwise, one is able to do with their own home as they want. The ONLY entity that can put rental restrictions is the mortgage/bank on the loan. There are some loan packages where one can NOT use their home for rental for 2 to 5 years after purchase. It must be used as their main home or the bank will pull the loan or apply punitive damages.

Rentals are one of those things where it's a good idea to restrict but the practice of restriction isn't. What your HOA going to do if someone rents? What is that punishment? A fine? Can your HOA legally enforce fines? Fines can't be used as the basis of a lien/foreclosure. Paying a fine on a rental property may be okay with an owner to pay. There are limits to the amount one can fine for. Which may be an amount one is comfortable with paying.

I find there are so many other ways to address rental issues than restrictions. The owner is responsible for all and everything the renter does. The HOA has to hold the owner's feet to the ground. Another thing that works the best? Making sure ALL and EVERY owner who rents their home has a clause the renter has to obey the HOA rules. If that clause is NOT in there, then it makes it harder for ALL parties. A HOA can't evict the renter. The owner can't evict the renter if they are not in violation of the rental agreement. If that clause isn't in their contract then they can't kick the renter out for HOA violations.

The HOA is a THIRD PARTY to rental agreements... Tenants have rights too. Owners who rent are the ones responsible for what happens to their property. So I would just make sure the owner has the clause in their rental to obey HOA rules. That is the extent of the best practice for all.

Former HOA President
JamL (Florida)
Posts: 5
Posted:
Melissa. I appreciate you comment and thoughts.

I agree 100% with you. Which is why I am opposed to it.

The problem where I live is there are a bunch old retired folk with a little too much money and time on their hands. They want to push this amendment through to make it their own private vacation community. For most here this is their second or third home... They feel they can do what they want and will harass the owners renters so long as they have this amendment to back up their position.

The only way I see fixing this problem is to challenge the amendment legally, however that will cost money.

They did not follow the outlined rules in how to alter the amendment, and in doing so I feel invalidates the amendment and would be illegal to sign into law.

I am looking for any unbiased opinions on my understanding if this is accurate.

Kindly

MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
You don't need to challenge it by the law. The law challenge will come in when someone rents out their home and they are told no. Simply put... They are setting themselves up for a lawsuit potential. Sometimes you can't protect yourself or your fellow members from that. Sometimes the effort to "protect" yourselves costs more than the suit/damage itself. You know suing your HOA is suing yourself and your neighbors.

So my bet is when someone is denied, they will threaten a lawsuit. Once it is threatened you will all re-visit the issue. Once that happens, then the subject will be addressed. Which may include rescinding the rule and allowing this person to lease. A smart HOA will do what it has to avoid a lawsuit once it's established they aren't right. Which a lawyer should tell them this upon requesting their assistance in the potential lawsuit.

Sometimes you can keep bringing water to your donkey, and sometimes you got to get your donkey to get up to the water...

Former HOA President
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Shelia,

Contrary to what Melissa said about waiting for someone to challenge the amendment, according to this article from a law firm, FL Courts are ruling that there is a 5 year statute of limitations to challenge an amendment to the covenants.

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