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JudyL4 (California)
Posts: 3
Posted:
The building was converted from apartments to condos 20 years ago. The original owner still owns 15 of 25 units, and rents them out. He has no interest in selling any of them. He was involved the writing of the HOA CCRs and the Rules, so they favor him. The Board, of course he’s the president and since he has so many votes, he handpicked the other members. He even owns the management company because - "the Board" chose it. We can’t change the CCRs, or anything else, because he has the majority of the votes and can vote down anything we propose. Obviously, we have huge problems we can’t solve, but right now he is ā€œasking the boardā€ to approve installation some washers and dryers in the units. The other owners are objecting because the building was built in 1950, without washers and dryers, and currently has terrible plumbing problems. We don't believe the pipes can accommodate this. Some of the the plumbing problems have been related to washer/dryers in other units that were also installed with "the Board's" okay. Is there any way to stop any of this?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
May need to report it to your local building code office. They can come in and do an inspection of the building to make sure the piping or additional load is sustainable. However, will warn you this may backfire on some level. If there is a determination the plumbing needs upgraded to meet code, you are ALL going to be paying for it.

I also believe any plumber getting a license for the job to install the washer/dryers should be raising red flags. It should be requested and required that any contractor doing work has to be licensed and insured. If this isn't happening, again report this to the building or code board when the work is being done. They need to see and ask that contractor questions...

You may be surprised and washers/dryer situation may be possible. Never know till it's addressed by professionals. It may indeed take some modifications. Are you all willing to pay in some extra money if indeed it is something that will work?

Former HOA President
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
He may have handpicked the rest of the board, but that doesn’t mean they HAVE to vote the way he wants them to. I would think your bylaws say something about elections and such, so he’d have to wait until the next election to replace them (because he has the majority of votes). If those other board members are concerned about this plumbing issue, they need to vote their conscious and let the chips fall where they may.

The tenants don’t have any voting power of course, but since plumbing is an issue, I wonder if the owners can team up with them. Maybe if they threaten to move when the lease is up because of crappy plumbing that could slow him down because he won’t have the income to put in this stuff.

Frankly, I’d consider moving out of this place because as long as this guy has this kind of power, he’ll be able to do whatever he wants in the end. Unfortunately, that may mean you lose money, but better that than wind up with a huge special assessment down the road because of the plumbing problems (which may worsen if he installs the washing machines).

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
SueW6 (Michigan)
Posts: 814
Posted:
"The building was converted from apartments to condos 20 years ago. The original owner still owns 15 of 25 units, and rents them out."

Judy - just out of curiosity, do your CCRS or bylaws say anything about rentals?

How can one owner rent out so many units? In fact, is he a resident "owner"?

If not, it confuses me how an outsider can control so much power.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
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Posted By SueW6 on 09/25/2016 9:01 AM

If not, it confuses me how an outsider can control so much power.

Happens all the time.
One individual wants to own the building so slowly purchases units. Overtime, they own the majority.

Another possibility, the owner of the apartment building wants to create a condominium. They start selling individual units to others. This is similar to a developer being in control of a new development. They have the voting power until enough units are sold.

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