AugustinD
Posts: 5,144
Posts: 5,144
Posted:
Issue: Has Corporate Fraud occurred when a Board does all of the following?
(1) requires proxies for the Annual Election to be notarized and emphatically publicizes to members the same for two months before and right through the day of the Annual Election;
(2) about one month before the Annual Election, and in Executive Session with the HOA attorney present, votes to revoke the proxy notarization requirement;
(3) tells no Member of the decision to revoke the proxy notarization requirement;
(4) ten days before the Annual Election, directs the CPA-Election Auditor to accept all proxies regardless of notarization;
(5) at the Annual Election, simultaneous to the Annual Meeting, several members question the notarization requirement. A motion is made to disallow it in the future. The Board President conducts a vote by the members, who overwhelmingly vote to recommend to that the Board not require notarization in the future. The Board President says nothing about the advice of the HOA Counsel and the previous month's Exec Session to revoke the requirement.
(6) a month after the Annual Election, announces to all that all proxies were accepted regardless of whether they were notarized. No explanation of why the Board did this is given.
Additional:
(a) So far, about 5% of all Members say they would have submitted a proxy were it not for the notarization requirement. These Members could not attend in person and so voted neither in person or by proxy.
Upon a group of Members filing a complaint with the HOA about the notarization requirement--
(b) the HOA Attorney revealed that a vote to revoke the proxy notarization requirement had taken place before the Annual Election.
(c) the HOA Attorney said the Board acted in good faith because it believed notarization would help ensure the integrity of the election. Then when the Board voted not to require notarization (on advice of counsel), the Board was still acting in good faith because it recognized the burden of notarization and that this burden could be found unlawful under state statute in a court of law.
(d) the HOA attorney has yet to respond to the Board not telling Members that the Board had revoked the notarization requirement.
(e) the HOA's gov docs have some limited provision for arbitration, with the prevailing party paying all the costs.
Subsequently,
(f) the Complainants asked for the Minutes of the meeting documenting the vote to revoke the notarization requirement, pursuant to the Bylaws and state law regarding record viewing.
(g) the HOA attorney stated that a redacted version of these Exec Session Minutes would be available for viewing when they were available for viewing (sic).
(h) two weeks later, the Board informed the Complainants that the redacted Exec Session Minutes were now available for viewing upon signing a non-disclosure form.
(i) the non-disclosure form requires that the signer agree (i-1) not to use the record for either harassment or disparagement; (i-2) to use the record only for HOA business; and (i-3) not to disclose the record without permission of the HOA; (i-4) to indemnify, release and hold harmless the HOA and the Board from any liability or claims arising from unauthorized use of the record.
Some of the Members want to take the HOA to court over this, trying to get the HOA President to pay all the fees of the HOA Attorney in addressing the in-house complaint. I read an exchange here about piercing the corporate veil. The latter refers to taking away corporate protections from a board member. Other improprieties with elections are alleged. I think they have much merit. Where the Board stands to profit by keeping a stranglehold on the election procedures: The Board is a huge fan of the HOA Manager. But many Members think the HOA Manager is incompetent for doing xyz. As long as the Board maintains a stranglehold on the election process, it will be able to keep this HOA Manager employed. I do not want to be a party to a lawsuit, as necessary as this suit may be, because I do not want to be in personal conflict for month and months. Also I know the HOA attorney will enjoy making a lot of money from this. But in the greater scheme, I think the benefit will outweigh the cost to members, and it could pave the way to a release of the stranglehold of the Board on the HOA in general, as it violates the gov docs, municipal law and state law.
First, thumbs up or down: Do you think this is corporate fraud that would pierce the corporate veil protecting the Board? Would it bother you as a HOA Member?
Second, is there a better way to handle this? Is arbitration better than going to court? Those with experience with arbitration: How do you predict arbitration would go?
(1) requires proxies for the Annual Election to be notarized and emphatically publicizes to members the same for two months before and right through the day of the Annual Election;
(2) about one month before the Annual Election, and in Executive Session with the HOA attorney present, votes to revoke the proxy notarization requirement;
(3) tells no Member of the decision to revoke the proxy notarization requirement;
(4) ten days before the Annual Election, directs the CPA-Election Auditor to accept all proxies regardless of notarization;
(5) at the Annual Election, simultaneous to the Annual Meeting, several members question the notarization requirement. A motion is made to disallow it in the future. The Board President conducts a vote by the members, who overwhelmingly vote to recommend to that the Board not require notarization in the future. The Board President says nothing about the advice of the HOA Counsel and the previous month's Exec Session to revoke the requirement.
(6) a month after the Annual Election, announces to all that all proxies were accepted regardless of whether they were notarized. No explanation of why the Board did this is given.
Additional:
(a) So far, about 5% of all Members say they would have submitted a proxy were it not for the notarization requirement. These Members could not attend in person and so voted neither in person or by proxy.
Upon a group of Members filing a complaint with the HOA about the notarization requirement--
(b) the HOA Attorney revealed that a vote to revoke the proxy notarization requirement had taken place before the Annual Election.
(c) the HOA Attorney said the Board acted in good faith because it believed notarization would help ensure the integrity of the election. Then when the Board voted not to require notarization (on advice of counsel), the Board was still acting in good faith because it recognized the burden of notarization and that this burden could be found unlawful under state statute in a court of law.
(d) the HOA attorney has yet to respond to the Board not telling Members that the Board had revoked the notarization requirement.
(e) the HOA's gov docs have some limited provision for arbitration, with the prevailing party paying all the costs.
Subsequently,
(f) the Complainants asked for the Minutes of the meeting documenting the vote to revoke the notarization requirement, pursuant to the Bylaws and state law regarding record viewing.
(g) the HOA attorney stated that a redacted version of these Exec Session Minutes would be available for viewing when they were available for viewing (sic).
(h) two weeks later, the Board informed the Complainants that the redacted Exec Session Minutes were now available for viewing upon signing a non-disclosure form.
(i) the non-disclosure form requires that the signer agree (i-1) not to use the record for either harassment or disparagement; (i-2) to use the record only for HOA business; and (i-3) not to disclose the record without permission of the HOA; (i-4) to indemnify, release and hold harmless the HOA and the Board from any liability or claims arising from unauthorized use of the record.
Some of the Members want to take the HOA to court over this, trying to get the HOA President to pay all the fees of the HOA Attorney in addressing the in-house complaint. I read an exchange here about piercing the corporate veil. The latter refers to taking away corporate protections from a board member. Other improprieties with elections are alleged. I think they have much merit. Where the Board stands to profit by keeping a stranglehold on the election procedures: The Board is a huge fan of the HOA Manager. But many Members think the HOA Manager is incompetent for doing xyz. As long as the Board maintains a stranglehold on the election process, it will be able to keep this HOA Manager employed. I do not want to be a party to a lawsuit, as necessary as this suit may be, because I do not want to be in personal conflict for month and months. Also I know the HOA attorney will enjoy making a lot of money from this. But in the greater scheme, I think the benefit will outweigh the cost to members, and it could pave the way to a release of the stranglehold of the Board on the HOA in general, as it violates the gov docs, municipal law and state law.
First, thumbs up or down: Do you think this is corporate fraud that would pierce the corporate veil protecting the Board? Would it bother you as a HOA Member?
Second, is there a better way to handle this? Is arbitration better than going to court? Those with experience with arbitration: How do you predict arbitration would go?