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RQ (Mississippi)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Please forgive me if this has been posted before. I did several searches for this topic but did not find what I was looking for (although I found quite a bit of good reading material!)... This forum is great.

Basically we have a 600ish property HOA in Mississippi, which has about 275 owners. Most people own one empty/wooded lot, but of our 120 homes, most sit on 2-3 lots each. We have about 200 lots that are owned by the HOA that are considered "privilege lots" (no utilities or road access) so that people can buy into our HOA and enjoy access to hunting, a large lake, and our community center.

One of the issues that our bookkeeper has struggled with is a lot owner selling their lot and not notifying her of the transaction. She can usually determine when a lot is sold because the monthly HOA dues payments start being paid by someone new. Sometimes she knows because the former owner suddenly stops paying and she calls/mails the old owner asking if everything is okay. Sometimes they answer but most of the time they don't. So far our only sure fire way of knowing is to go to the county clerk's office each spring and get hundreds of pages of printouts and compare them lot by lot with the previous year. At that point, however, most people would already be 6+ months in arrears on their HOA dues are are placed on the foreclosure list.

My question is... how do other HOAs know when properties change hands?

This month we are installing a gate at our community's only entrance and lot owners must contact me to have their names entered into the call box. I think this will catch a few folks, but we will miss buyers whose seller hands them their old clicker/hangtags that grant them automatic access to the gate...

Thank you
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
Posted:
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Posted By RQ on 05/13/2016 10:34 AM
So far our only sure fire way of knowing is to go to the county clerk's office each spring and get hundreds of pages of printouts and compare them lot by lot with the previous year. At that point, however, most people would already be 6+ months in arrears on their HOA dues are are placed on the foreclosure list.


I'm guessing that when you say "county clerk's office", you are talking about the tax assessor's office or tax collection office. Those records probably get updated every year.

I think that there's a better place to look.

Your county should have a Recorder of Deeds office - where deeds and mortgages get filed.

Where I am, we can look this information up online. So if I have the UPI # for the property, or if I have the name of the old owner, it's easy to search anytime to see if a property has been sold.


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DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
Posted:
Where these records are managed varies by state and maybe even county. In Florida the Property Appraiser's(PA) offices are the best source for this info. I'm not sure if all 67 counties have the info on-line, but all of the larger ones do, there might be some tiny counties in remote areas that don't.

In our case, I can go to the PA web site, enter our subdivision name and get a list of all properties with current owner names in about 20 seconds. New sales usually show up within 2-3 weeks. If any owner has changed, I can open their detail and get the mailing address, again in seconds. If your county doesn't have these records online, my condolences.


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TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Since our HOA membership is mandatory and our State statutes require the seller to provide specific disclosures that they can only obtain from the Association, we typically know when a property is being sold or placed on the market.

As Treasurer, once we are aware of that, I will personally track the house.

Additionally, it's typical for the closing company to contact the Association asking what the assessments are, the status of the account, etc. When I provide this info, I ask that a copy of the HUD-1 be sent to us. This request is typically granted. The HUD-1 shows the name and last address of the buyer and the date the property actually sold.
PitA
Posts: 1,416
Posted:
Aaaah, Tim, there ya go again, taking the easy route

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