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DonnaR5
Posts: 162
Posted:
Our community originally (1973) did not allow 2nd story decks to be added to homes; in 1999, responding to HOA members who wanted them, the board passed a resolution allowing them if 4 of the closest neighbors signed a document saying they had no objection.

Last month, we received a letter from one member asking us to revisit this policy and eliminate neighbors' ability to prevent a homeowner from building a deck. What are others' thoughts on this? If your HOA has a 2nd story deck policy, what is it?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Donna,

Deck issues within my Association is very divided.

Initially, homes in our Association that did not have walk out basements had decks and those who had walk out basements did not. Then, over the years, some homes that had walk outs were authorized decks. Then someone complained and a knee jerk reaction had the Board adopt a guideline saying homes with walkout basements could no longer have decks. When surveyed (as we did about 5 years ago) there was almost a 50/50 split of those who replied (along the lines of those who had and those who did not have decks).

We have been informally advised by our attorney that if challenged the guideline could not be well defended (mainly because decks had already been approved).

The guideline still exists.

For the record, I think everyone who wants a deck should have one.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
What are the objections to decks, Donna? Would they in some cases, for instance, block views? Or would they in some cases cause some sort of loss of privacy?

Do these decks cantilever out of living areas? Or bedrooms?

Must neighbors now write down logical reasons for refusing their neighbor adding a deck?

Are there size limits to these decks? Are decks allowed to completely enclosed? May they be completely covered with a roof?

I'm just trying to understand why anyone would object.
DonnaR5
Posts: 162
Posted:
The most common possible objections people have, although I have no idea what percentage of the community might feel this way, is blocking side views from back yards or possibly privacy concerns, ability to see into neighbors' houses from the deck. Of course, being able to see into windows exists all through a townhome community -- houses are close together. Some homes have more privacy in the back because they back onto an undeveloped floodplain which is a natural wooded area.

When the change was made to allow 2nd story decks as long as the neighbors were OK with it, there were no elevated decks in the community. Now there are plenty. So people might be less scared of the possibility of a neighbor having a deck.

Our deck policy in other respects is pretty scanty. I suppose the people who drafted the policy two decades ago were too focused on the issue of whether to allow them at all. So we have no size restrictions or enclosure restrictions, which should probably be looked at, too. So I will welcome thoughts on those subjects, too.
DonnaR5
Posts: 162
Posted:
Forgot to answer one of Kerry's questions. The decks extend from the rear of each house, extending either from the kitchen & dining room or living room area. They aren't cantilevered, they are supported by posts.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Sounds like you're on the board, right, Donna? How many THs in your HOA?

Ah, I can see the attraction since decks extend from living areas. I'd want one too.

We're two high rise condo buildings & all have balconies or decks. Privacy isn't an issue because folks wouldn't live here if they didn't want neighbors seeing them on their balconies or in their living areas.

I seems to me that this a good opportunity to clarify your HOA's policy about decks. If you have an ARC, perhaps they can put a proposal together.

DonnaR5
Posts: 162
Posted:
We have 400-something townhomes. Yes, I'm a board member, and I think we do need to look at bringing our guidelines up to date. Funny how one specific question suddenly makes you see a host of related questions.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Posted By DonnaR5 on 04/20/2016 6:24 AM

The most common possible objections people have, although I have no idea what percentage of the community might feel this way, is blocking side views from back yards or possibly privacy concerns, ability to see into neighbors' houses from the deck. .

Those were the same concerns raised within our Association.

My suggestion is to take a survey of the membership.
It can be expensive, but you will then know how the members feel.

When we did a survey, we included 2 opinion letters.
1 for and 1 against. We invited the most vocal within the membership to write the papers. Our only imitation was that the paper could only be one page in length.

I've attached a copy of our survey questions.

If you would like to know our results, email me. [email protected]

Hope this helps,

TIm
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JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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Posted By DonnaR5 on 04/19/2016 7:33 AM
Our community originally (1973) did not allow 2nd story decks to be added to homes; in 1999, responding to HOA members who wanted them, the board passed a resolution allowing them if 4 of the closest neighbors signed a document saying they had no objection.

Last month, we received a letter from one member asking us to revisit this policy and eliminate neighbors' ability to prevent a homeowner from building a deck. What are others' thoughts on this? If your HOA has a 2nd story deck policy, what is it?

Donna

The first decks happened in 1999, over 17 years ago and with the exception of maybe several "objectors", they seem to have become somewhat of a standard in your association.

I suggest you drop the fellow owners needing to approve and concentrate on the standards (safety and appearance) for such decks.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
I think you're getting some good advice, here, Donna!

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