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Jadedone4 (Virginia)
Posts: 495
Posted:
KevinK5 - raised an (interesting) and very good resource in responding to another post here ("HOA contract a two way...) - Grants. While this was in the thread concerning financial assistance for HOA's where collection activities were warranted. I am curious about whether anyone on here has information on local/state grants for your area - which support programs (education of boards, HOA's in general, communities, etc) on "life in an HOA." I know that "CAI" and others have on/offline resources - but often there is some (again one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't issues) reluctance, and even just not the availability of funds for an HOA to send, request, etc - skills training for boardmembers. Not to mentioned that it often "leaves" with the person if they move out of the community, or are no longer on the board. This really is a "specialize field" and sometimes resources are needed, and not always easily accessible.

Man, back in college we were able to "photocopy" a book from front to back and save $$ for beer/pizza, now that is copyright/trademark infringement. Wondering if hoaTalk, can start up a book "borrowing" program for us..
JudithC (Virginia)
Posts: 253
Posted:
I don't know whether this is the type of thing that you were thinking about but Fairfax County has a hefty manual that they produce and also a TV program on CAs where you can also catch the latest one they did - i.e. you don't have to watch real time. Both are referred to in this page:
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/consumer/hoa.htm

When I first started out in HOAs our local CAI chapter was a wonderful resource of conferences, seminars, etc. Somehow when they standardized their education through the ABCs course they dropped out of the excellent educational programs they had -- at least in my opinion. I think they took the educational expense line item off of our budget as it was no longer used and hadn't been for so long. Of course now everyone knows everything just by sitting at the board table so they don't need classes or reading (tongue in cheek there, but it seems like their attitude).

You could buy books and have them checked out through your secretary. They tend to walk off otherwise. I have found it very hard to get board members to read, most don't even read their own documents, much less "lessons learned" types of information that have been done. I knew of one hoa president that had a notebook that she set up that was just loaded with info. She finally gave up on that as no one was reading it. It can be frustrating.
KevinK5 (California)
Posts: 64
Posted:
Hi,
I guess my ears were burning. I found your post.
Why not form a library for your board and buy some of the books from the
http://www.communityassociations.net/books_videos_main.html
web site with association funds and pass the books around the board members?
Even Gloria M has a small book she sells for $15. I have not bought any of them myself but am considering doing so.
After reading many of the posts on this web site, I consider myself very lucky that my county provides so many free resources. I am taking advantage of those all the time. I am going to a neighborhood conference next month sponsored by my county. The cost is $10 and includes lunch. Is that a deal or what?
Maybe petition your county to provide some of these services? It seems all the crime problems etc around Orlando are in non-HOA neighborhoods. The REALLY NICE, problem-free neighborhoods have the most restrictive covenants and they enforce them. That seems like a good reason for your county to provide assistance to HOAs too.
JM2 (Oregon)
Posts: 439
Posted:
Hi:

Why not budget funds, either for books each year, or for board training through your local/nearest CAI chapter? This would be a valuable and wise use of assessments, because the investment in board training could pay off tremendously. Alternately, there may be some training that your PM company, or another one in the area, could provide, or a local PM would could do a board retreat each year...or (in the case of the HOA I work for) hire someone from the outside to fly in to do a board retreat. There is a lot of widsom out there from experienced managers!

J. Patrick Moore, CMCA
JosephW (Michigan)
Posts: 882
Posted:
Also in Virginia: I did a number of video tapes a few years ago about associations and the Commonwealth (and Montgomery County, MD) bought sets for every library in the state, so they may still be around in VHS form. Also in Virginia, I built a web site for them also a few years ago that they are now operating with a lot of information: http://webapp.dpor.state.va.us/ This isn't a bad resource for anyone as not every article is Virginia-specific. (Building this is where I got the idea to create CAN.) Also in Virginia, the "Common Interest Comunity Resource Guides" put together by Radford University are good: http://cobe-web.asp.radford.edu/cicp/

A number of CAI chapters and some individuals and corporations have sponsored donations of CAI's books to local libraries, so you may want to check them out as a possible resource.

In Arizona, The Leadership Centre has started running courses for board members. Info can be found at: http://www.theleadershipcentre.org/

Just a few

Joe

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JudithC (Virginia)
Posts: 253
Posted:
Joe, I will start right off by displaying my ignorance -- what is CAN?

Okay, that being said I went to the site you referenced, and the POAA is "as of 2003". Sounds like probably it has not been updated since you did the site (which is quite lovely). I had poked around once before to see what was being done with those grants sponsored by our cash. I had just been to the DPOR site to see if they had posted the new POAA -- no.

Now, I can put the current POAA together from the changes listed on the legislative site, but it sure would be nice to find it all updated so I would know for sure I had caught everything. Very frustrating -- Va. passes these laws, does nothing to enforce them, and don't even make it easy to find out about them.

When I worked on the HOA committee of our local chapter I got tapes from some of the Fairfax shows for the chapter office. That was a great idea to put them in libraries, I'll see if my local one has it. Of course there was the recent story about them tossing out such classics as Moby Dick because it wasn't read often enough, so I am not sure how an HOA tape would survive! Did you think about putting the tapes on the internet?
JosephW (Michigan)
Posts: 882
Posted:
CAN is for my site to the left (or right) "Community Associations Network" I have some videos on the site and there will be more on the next version. The video tapes were converted to DVD's and CAI sells them now. I know that Virginia hasn't updated the web site since they took it over, but when they decided not to renew the grant, that was the end.

Joe

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JudithC (Virginia)
Posts: 253
Posted:
Thanks Joe, I had seen Community Association Network on the site, but from your post thought you had some ongoing CAN that you were involved in. Actual networks of Associations are good ideas, IMO. Now to look for the videos -- I got sidetracked by the POAA.

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