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GaryH7 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3
Posted:

Is the following a normal clause in an HoA? The clause in the HoA and there is an accompanying CC&R.

This community is in phase 1 of a 6 phase development of 124 units consisting of single family house, apartment buildings, and townhouse condos. The developer maintains 100% control via class A/B voting rights until all units are transferred or 15 years elapses.

It would seem like the following clause would give the developer/investors the ability to buy up unsold units on the backs of the early homeowners and exit the project if things went bad while he was still a majority owner. To me, this clause should not take effect until after the developer has exited the project or the clause should be removed completely. HoA overreach or normal?

TRUSTEES PURCHASE OF UNITS
With the prior approval of a majority in interest of the Unit Owners, the Trust
may acquire Units of the Community. Acquisition of Units by the Trust may be made
from any funds in the hands of the Trustees; or if such funds are insufficient, the Trustees
may levy an assessment against each Unit Owner in proportion to his or her beneficial
interest, as a common charge; or the Trustees, in their discretion, may borrow money to
finance the acquisition of such Units, provided, however, that no financing may be
secured by an encumbrance or hypothecation of any property other than the Units to be
acquired by the Trustees.

In the event that a Unit shall be acquired by the Trustees, all Unit Owners shall be
deemed to have waived all rights of partition with respect to such Unit or Units as are
acquired by the Trustee.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
If the community is still under the developer's control, he/she/they can do whatever they like - that's the flip side of HOA life and why many people hold off buying until the community's turned over. Even then, that doesn't guarantee things won't happen.

It's best to check out the developer's reputation with other communities it's built and then you can decide what to do. Of course if you've already brought your home, you'll have to keep an eye on things until the homeowners take over.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
Posted:
Not familiar with such a clause.

Did an internet search for that language. Came across the following link to a MA association:

http://meeb.com/assets/Robbins-Brook-DOT.pdf

From their docs, appears that declarant is gone and transfer has occurred. You might want to reach out to that association and find out what their experience was.

Sikubali jukumu. Read all posts at your own risk.
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
Posted:
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Posted By NpS on 04/09/2016 11:16 AM
Not familiar with such a clause.

Did an internet search for that language. Came across the following link to a MA association:

http://meeb.com/assets/Robbins-Brook-DOT.pdf

See Sec 5.24.

From their docs, appears that declarant is gone and transfer has occurred. You might want to reach out to that association and find out what their experience was.


Sikubali jukumu. Read all posts at your own risk.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Gary,

Are the developers using this clause (or threatening to use it) or is this just something you found in the CC&R's?

I have never seen a clause like this but I would think that the requirement for "approval of a majority in interest of the Unit Owners" will stop a lot of potential shady dealing. The phrase, "a majority in interest of the Unit Owners" implies that the class A/B voting scheme would not apply; they cannot do this without an actual majority of property owners approving. Of course, until a majority of the lots are sold then the developer is still the "majority in interest of the Unit Owners."

One thing I have learned from this forum is that buying into a development in its earlier stages is risky. In spite of everyone's good intentions, things can sour quickly leaving buyers with nothing but empty promises.

GaryH7 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3
Posted:
Thank you for all the responses, they are helpful.

Robbins Brook is nearby to me, but I am not familiar with it although it seems like a somewhat similar situation in that it involves a mix of housing/use types. The document seems to be post development in that the developer does not appear to be in the picture and in control (i.e. owners firmly in charge).

The development I was looking into starts off with the trustees being the builder and an outside investment company. I trust the builder and really like him, what is unclear is the extent of control of the investment company. Clearly the investment company is in it for a return on their investment. The RE market is good here in Massachusetts and if things stay good then all would likely end fine. My concern is if there is a down turn or if they have trouble marketing/filling the apartment units and/or the condos. I would suspect the clause would allow the possibility to foist unsold units on the HoA and could be a viable exit strategy before actual unit owners are in the majority.

Of course, there is another clause that says the trustees can change the document so I suppose they could remove the majority restriction. One would hope not, but a down market or prospect of losing money can make even good people do things they normally would not. I find this all very hard to gauge whether my concerns are real or very unlikely. Lawyer wasn't much help except to agree with my concerns, but say it "probably wouldn't happen".

NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
Posted:
As Larry and I said, clause is not familiar.

The association I provided the link to (we don't use names here) had the exact same language as you have.

Yes that association is post development. But the language was probably put in place by the developer. (That kind of wording would typically be a carried over, not added).

So IMO it would be worthwhile for you to speak to them on:
what concerns they had while the developer had control; and
why they kept that language after transfer.

Also, it could be a local thing. I know that MA has a unique land court system - so they may have special ways of dealing with issues.


Sikubali jukumu. Read all posts at your own risk.
JeffT2 (Iowa)
Posts: 880
Posted:
It is quite common for a trust (association or whatever) to have the authority to bid on and acquire units at a foreclosure sale, and some will buy abandoned or damaged (e.g., burned out) units. Some trusts own commercial units that are rented out, or rental units at a resort community. So this may not be that unusual.
GaryH7 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3
Posted:
What has me spooked in this situation is I asked to amend the clause so that it wouldn't take effect until after the "Transition Date". This is the date after which the developer has turned over control of the HoA to the homeowners and exited the project. My request to amend was declined with the reason given it might impair their options. I know it's probably a low priority, but the thought of the HoA, under the control of the developer, buying up condo or apartment units on the backs of the single family homeowners regardless of the reason seems wrong.

As single family house owners we're only signing on to buy a house, not invest in the rest of the project. The single family house HoA needs are relatively small - maintaining 2 open space parcels and some common driveway areas. The rest of the single family portion of the project are public roads and infrastructure maintained by the municipality. To me it would have been much simpler to have one HoA for the houses, one for the condos, and one for the apartments since the needs are very different. Together the one composite HoA and CC&R total 55 pages!
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
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Posted By GaryH7 on 04/10/2016 5:49 PM
What has me spooked in this situation is I asked to amend the clause so that it wouldn't take effect until after the "Transition Date". This is the date after which the developer has turned over control of the HoA to the homeowners and exited the project. My request to amend was declined with the reason given it might impair their options. I know it's probably a low priority, but the thought of the HoA, under the control of the developer, buying up condo or apartment units on the backs of the single family homeowners regardless of the reason seems wrong.

As single family house owners we're only signing on to buy a house, not invest in the rest of the project. The single family house HoA needs are relatively small - maintaining 2 open space parcels and some common driveway areas. The rest of the single family portion of the project are public roads and infrastructure maintained by the municipality. To me it would have been much simpler to have one HoA for the houses, one for the condos, and one for the apartments since the needs are very different. Together the one composite HoA and CC&R total 55 pages!

Sure it would have been better for YOU if the documents were arranged more to your liking.

Yet if I was your developer, I wouldn't think of limiting MY options based on your desire for something more convenient.

The truth is that you are under developer control - and til that changes - you really don't have much say.

Sikubali jukumu. Read all posts at your own risk.
BobD4 (up north)
Posts: 1,002
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Posted By LarryB13 . . . One thing I have learned from this forum is that buying into a development in its earlier stages is risky. In spite of everyone's good intentions, things can sour quickly leaving buyers with nothing but empty promises.

GaryH7Mass :
1- Good comment by Larry B13 above. Urban condo universes see many 'first owners' who were unable to recover their purchase price several years after registration of the Declaration.

Or who got clothes-lined by developer contracts that allowed numerous delays. Or who hoped there would still be a view from the balcony other than another new balcony facing them from 6 feet away.

Or whose contracts failed to protect them from un-consented developer changes like turning a lobby clothes closet into a furnace unit. Some first buyers however dance for joy . . .

2 - You ask about "normal". Is very much "normal" in the universe of condos/HOAs
( Jurisdictions like mine chose to legislate a Board of Directorship instantly into place upon registration of Declaration, with milestone transitions of Director seating as sales milestones are reached ).

A Trust transitional model may recognize that a developer will want out cleanly after profitability ends. But leaving final stage governance to domination by the earlier majority owners, may impede that exit and/or depress prices/complicate a developer's arbitrary choices in later stages. Over a century ago in my jurisdiction Trust models were used to succeed private proprietary developers of Building Schemes in the absence of statutory frameworks like condominium models.

So it might be "normal" in the absence of a more modern statutory Board of Director governance model with legislated transitions, CCR transitions, consumer protections, accountability to existing owners etc . . .

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