💬 Join us to post & get advice from 50,000 HOA & Condo leaders.

Create Free Account →

⚡ Takes 30 seconds

Already a member? Log in

BlainC
Posts: 1
Posted:
I purchased a unit in a 200+ condo complex about 3 years The complex is on a beach, so primarily vacation homes/ seasonal rentals. Some things immediately caught my attention with the HOA management and board. The property manager for the complex is the son of the long time HOA president. I was elected to a 3 year term on the board about 1.5 years ago. Since that time, I have struggled with being able to obtain information from the property manager. The core of the board is very tight and vote together always in alignment with the president. Very little activity actually happens with the board, as the President rules unilaterally. My inquiries and attempts to learn more about operations have not been well received. The president and son are both lawyers and very reluctant to correspond via email. This frustrates me. The property manager acts as a board member, even attending executive sessions.

While I have found no evidence of blatant wrong doing, it is very hard to get info or to change things that need changing. For instance, there is no policy or approval process for expenses. The GM essentially writes checks to himself and his father. The GM also gets paid extra (on top of a well above average base salary) for things such as security and working in a lawyer capacity on overdue account collection. Is this normal?

3 of the old guard board members are up for election later this year, and I am optimistic that we can replace some or all with new owner candidates and that would flip the power and hopefully allow for changes and more active homeowner management. So, I am trying to play nice and bide my time.

Any thoughts, suggestions, etc would be appreciated.

JonD1
Posts: 2,350
Posted:
As you have no evidence of wrongdoing during your 1 1/2 years on the board and have no areas of real concern other than family relationships and procedures why do you approach these board members as the enemy?

Evidently, if you, purchased in this property something must be going right.

In many cases the President of an association might act as the lead agent if and when others decide they have no desire to be active in the decision making process.

What you have described alone does not rise to reasons to act or work for the removal of current members of the board. Just because things are not done your way doesn't mean they are not in the best interest of the property.

And to be honest should a new member join our board and suddenly wish to review documents, scrutinize records, and double check what the board has done it might just ruffle a few feathers suggesting there is something YOU now need to change whether there is or not.

Does the system is place work? Is the current board acting in the property's best interests?

Hard to take back suggestion of wrongdoing and accusations if in the end there was in fact nothing wrong occurring. Sounds like you are looking Andy expect to find problems. When you have no indication there are any to date.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Does the system is place work? Is the current board acting in the property's best interests?

These are the main questions.

DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JohnC46 on 04/01/2016 11:27 AM
Does the system is place work? Is the current board acting in the property's best interests?

These are the main questions.

My feeling is that if even a board member feels a lack of transparency, then things must be totally opaque for the rest of the owners, and I would be looking to bring in some fresh blood. Even if things are working ok, they could be paying a lot more than necessary for PM and other services because of the nepotism.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Some of the replies to you, Blain, are, um, very interesting.

I need to ask: what is the President getting paid for?? Simple reimbursements? Or?

Re: pay for your GM: what does your contract say? How old is it? Does it include overdue accounts collections ? Does it comply with your governing documents? It does seem like gross conflicts of interest all over the place UNLESS the board has voted for all of these extras payments.

Budgets: does your board vote on your annual budget? What are the requirements in NC for owner participation to approve or ratify budgets? Any?

Why does the prez have unilateral power? Is that in your bylaws? Or are the rest of the Board intimated? Lazy?

Are board meetings in NC open to Owners? How often do you have them? Who writes the meeting minutes? Are they approved at subsequent meetings? How often does the Board meet?

Does NC permit Ownrs to have access to most documents?

If you want new blood on the board, start forming relationships now; find sources of shared interests & work on them.

Welcome to HOATalk!

🎯 You've read this entire discussion

Join the conversation with 50,000 HOA & Condo Leaders:

  • ✓ Ask follow-up questions
  • ✓ Share your experience
  • ✓ Get expert advice
  • ✓ Access 350,000 discussions
Create Free Account →

⚡ Takes 30 seconds

Already a member? Log in here