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MeganM3 (Kansas)
Posts: 1
Posted:
I am in the process of buying a new home that has an HOA. I received the Declarations of Restrictions for the HOA. After reading through them I noticed that there was some information about how the HOA would be handled after a 20 year period. The document was created in June 1995, so the 20 year period would be June 2015. Would someone be willing to read through the attached screenshot of the section that I am curious about. I am just wondering if the HOA is still active or what happens now?

Here is the verbiage:

23. Each of the restrictions above set forth shall continue to be binding upon South Hampton, Inc. and upon its successors and assigns, for a period of twenty (20) years from June 1, 1995, and shall automatically be continued thereafter for successive periods of five (5) years each; provided, however, that the owners of the fee simple title to the majority of the front foot of the of the lots herein described may release all of the land, hereby restricted, from any one or more of said restrictions during the first twenty (20) year period, or during any successive five (5) year period thereafter, by executing and acknowledging an appropriate agreement or agreements in writing for such purposes; and filing the same for record prior to the expiration of this first twenty (20) year period, or of any (5) year period thereafter.

Thank you!
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
The language is a bit different.

However, in my laymans opinion, the crux of it is:

1) The CC&Rs (aka deed restrictions) are attached to the land - hence when anyone in the future purchases the property they are still bound by the same restrictions.

2) The CC&Rs continue for life (in this case an auto renewal every 5 years).

3) The CC&Rs may be amended as desired (remove one or all of the recorded restrictions on everyone, or single or multiple properties) at anytime providing said amendment is in writing and properly recorded. They simply may not recorded the same day the renewal occurs (at least that's my take on it).

Again, it's worded a little differently then I'm used to seeing.
However, it's fairly standard in what it is saying.
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
Posted:
I'm seeing two things:

1. It appears that your HOA is in it's first automatic renewal period which began on June 1, 2015. The next automatic renewal is on June 1, 2020.

2. At any time, a majority of the "front foot" title holders can cancel any or all of the deed restrictions by recording that change.

So if there haven't been any recordings saying that some or all of the deed restrictions were removed, then your Declaration of Restrictions stands.

Sikubali jukumu. Read all posts at your own risk.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Megan,

Except for the business about a "front foot" the passage you included is fairly common in CC&R's. It implies that the covenants may be abolished every so often, although my own interpretation is that the owners may do that at any time by simply amending them right out of existence.

Is there another passage in your CC&R's to describe what is meant by "front foot?" You quoted the text as, "the front foot of the of the lots herein described," suggesting that the term may be defined elsewhere in the CC&R's.

JeffT2 (Iowa)
Posts: 880
Posted:
Two definitions of front foot from the internet:

1. the length of the property that runs along the street. [reasonable]

2. The batsman's foot farthest from his wicket. [gotta love it!]

Seriously though, the language in Megan's Declarations says "majority of front foot of the lots". What does that mean? Add up the front foot (street length) of the lots to get a majority of all the front foot in the HOA? This would be similar to voting in some condominiums where each unit has a percentage to add up.

Difficult language. Quite the sticky wicket, that. The unmistakable conclusion is that the lots bordering the cricket field get to decide the fate of the HOA, as it should be.
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
Check and re-check for any amendments to the Declaration that may have been filed since the original. After 20+ years I think the odds are good that there have been amendments. Even if the verbiage you cited hasn't changed, you at least want to be sure you're looking at the most recent document(s) "as amended".
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JeffT2 on 03/02/2016 10:40 AM
Seriously though, the language in Megan's Declarations says "majority of front foot of the lots". What does that mean? Add up the front foot (street length) of the lots to get a majority of all the front foot in the HOA? This would be similar to voting in some condominiums where each unit has a percentage to add up.


Jeff,

I suspect you are correct. It's just that I do not think I have ever heard of the amount of frontage one has on his property to be the basis for voting in a residential HOA, even though my own association bases voting and assessments on acreage owned.

Since many rural associations have to maintain their own roads, assessing by how much frontage one owns would seem to be a fair way of doing it.

I have seen improvement districts where owners are assessed by the amount of frontage they own, the theory being that when the narrow 2-lane road between the cotton fields is widened into a 6-lane boulevard that the land will become more valuable. That theory assumes that convenience stores and strip malls are more desirable than cotton fields.

BobD4 (up north)
Posts: 1,002
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Quote:
Posted By MeganM3 on 03/02/2016 6:54 AM
I am in the process of buying a new home that has an HOA. ... Here is the verbiage:

23. Each of the restrictions above set forth shall continue to be binding . . ; provided, however, that the owners of the fee simple title to the majority of the front foot of the of the lots herein described may release all of the land, hereby restricted, from any one or more of said restrictions during . . .

MeganM3 Kansas :

The interpretation(s)you seek should be questioned by you to the legal professional handling your buying into a form of shared ownership that doesn't make everyone dance for joy.

That professional should be qualified & insured, and is being paid by you.

That said, the excerpt may be intended to contain an amending formula for some sort of waiver or release of restriction(s) triggerable by enough owners whose private properties cumulatively exceed owning 50% of the total foot frontage of whatever the germane class of properties.

The excerpt can really be understood by things you have NOT quoted. This ain't legal advice.

Ask your legal professional also about how MRT(A) or "marketable record title" aspects affect purported perpetuities, and about the perpetuities rules of your jurisdiction.

Good idea to read through some of the other topics here before you DARE to buy.
PitA
Posts: 1,416
Posted:
ditto ditto ditto

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