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JeffreyB5 (Louisiana)
Posts: 9
Posted:
Here is the situation...

I am the treasurer/manager of the day-to-day operations of my HOA. We currently have 180 residents, and will grow to around 380 once the development is complete. We have lot owners that originally purchased lots several years ago with the intention of building custom homes. However, a large developer in our state has bought out just about all of the lots from the original developer. Consequently, these owners are sitting on lots that will never sell for anywhere near what they paid, so they are holding out for more money from the current developer. The developer was the BOD until May 2015 in which they turned it over to the residents. However, we started officially collecting dues in January 2015. Our assessments are sent out bi-annually. The developer previously put a management company in place, which we terminated this month due to budget and performance issues.

The management company sent out all invoices last year, and were actually sending invoices to the vacant lots to the actual lots. Of course, these lots have no mailboxes, so the mail would have had to have been returned to the company, including the certified intent to lien letters that were sent out. Never once did they attempt to verify the addresses on our assessor's website, which I did upon termination. I was then able to send out the letters to the correct addresses for the owners, and have had a few responses, and they had no idea that anything was due.

One particular owner feels that we should write-off his 2015 balance. His argument is that it should not be due as he was not informed about it until now. While I sympathize with him and understand that it is not fun to get hit with such a large bill, as a board we cannot justify writing off the balance. However, I have agreed to write-off the late fees and all accrued interest, as well as work out a payment plan. He still does not feel that it is fair, and has even said that he might consult his attorney.

Has anyone else ever run into this type of issue? I realize that rules differ from state to state, but am just looking for general advice. All of the lots in the subdivision fall under the HOA, and none are exempt.
MarkM31 (Washington)
Posts: 351
Posted:
How do you elect officers? The development company that owns 200/380 lots has a clear majority, so what they say goes.

How can a owner owe for dues year 2015, when no real effort was made to contact them? No search of the assessors records, no nothing.
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
Posted:
Very impressed with what you have done so far. Good for you.

If as you say, the HOA is mandatory for all lots, then so are the fees.

Your CC&Rs establish the obligation to pay - not the sending of an invoice.

You might want to tell him that under his deed restrictions, he must pay his proportionate share. The HOA does not have the authority to waive his fees because that would force the other lotowners to make up the difference and pay more than their fair share.

It's not uncommon for a lotowner to threaten that he will consult a lawyer. Few people go that far.

If things remain amicable you don't have to say anything more. Send your certified notices as appropriate. But if the dialog starts to degrade, you can let him know that the deed restrictions allow you to charge him for your legal fees and costs to collect.

Of course, you should read your docs to make sure what I'm saying is accurate.

Best of luck.


Sikubali jukumu. Read all posts at your own risk.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Jeffrey,

You appear to be doing things correctly.

Simply explain that the CC&Rs do not provide authorization for the Board to waive the actual assessment and that waiving the fees is the best the Association can do.
DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
Posted:
With NPS on this. My docs say that assessments are due whether the owner is notified or not.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
See the post from EvelynM5 on 02/05. Some will try any "logic/excuse" to get out of paying.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JeffreyB5 on 02/21/2016 7:55 PM
He still does not feel that it is fair, and has even said that he might consult his attorney.


He had an obligation to pay. If he wanted an invoice he should have kept the association informed of his mailing address. If he thinks waiving the late fees is not fair then reinstate the fees and cut him no slack.

Encourage him to consult his attorney. Let him pay your fees plus the attorney's fees and then ask him if your are being fair.

JeffT2 (Iowa)
Posts: 880
Posted:
It never hurts to check the wording in your governing docs. The bylaws for my association require us to send notice to owners of the assessment, but also say that if notice is not timely given, the assessment is due after 30 days of sending notice.
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:

Sending HOA mail into the "abyss" is common, especially with investment properties or foreclosed units in mature neighborhoods.

You are correct to remove all fees and charges associated with the miscommunication. No, the HOA should not waive HOA assessments due to miscommunication. Every property owner agreed to pay dues when they bought their land. They opted-in.
JeffreyB5 (Louisiana)
Posts: 9
Posted:
Thanks for all of the advice, everyone. I am glad to see that you think I am on the right path here with what I have done so far.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
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Posted By KellyM3 on 02/22/2016 11:34 AM

Sending HOA mail into the "abyss" is common, especially with investment properties or foreclosed units in mature neighborhoods.

You are correct to remove all fees and charges associated with the miscommunication. No, the HOA should not waive HOA assessments due to miscommunication. Every property owner agreed to pay dues when they bought their land. They opted-in.

Well said.
KevinK7 (Florida)
Posts: 1,343
Posted:
What is the exact language of the assessment restriction? And when the development was sold were there NY changes made to the declaration?
MelodyM1 (Colorado)
Posts: 9
Posted:
A questions - did the HOA exist when they purchased their lots? If there was no HOA in place at the time, then the are grandfathered into not being a part of it, unless they make the option to be a part.
JeffreyB5 (Louisiana)
Posts: 9
Posted:
Melody, it was in place at that point in time. Dues were not collected at that point for some reason, though.

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