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DaneE (Texas)
Posts: 12
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My HOA is about to undergo the process of updating our CC&R's and By-Laws that have not been touched since 1969 (other than a land annex in 1974). What concerns and issues should the new CC&R's and By-Laws address? I've thought of a lot of issues or concerns that the last 50 years could have, but I really would like some input from outside sources.

Thanks!
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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One thing to learn is how TX laws have changed so that some of your CC&Rs are out of date. Your CC&Rs, for instance might say that sat. dishes for TV reception is forbidden. But, in this case, you need to know the federal law about them.

Any language in them that's about the "declarant" (developer) probably should be deleted.

Any language that discriminates by gender, race, ethnicity, etc. must be eliminated.

Is your HOA detached homes, condos, or? How many homes?

Google HOA CC&Rs, Texas to learn more.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Do an internet search for other similar (HOA or COA) associations within the same County/City and look at those CC&Rs. The more recent ones will give you a good example.

If you are just starting, I'd also suggest forming a committee of homeowners to provide the rough draft. The Board should not be involved at this point - just the committee. This provides opportunities for others to serve, helps to gather the support you will need from the membership and the Board will still have a chance to review and make changes. The more you include the membership, the easier it should be in obtaining the required number of owners to make the changes.

It took us three years once we started the process.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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I wanted to share, in more detail, what our process was:

1) Committee made recommended rewrite

This consisted of a document, paragraph by paragraph showing the existing language and the new language along with the reason for the recommended change (original - in black ink, recommendation - in blue ink, reason - in green ink).

2) Board reviewed recommendation and made changes to create draft.

3) Draft was published to the membership and a special membership meeting was called to answer questions and receive feedback.

4) Board made changes based on membership feedback creating revised draft.

5) Revised draft was sent to the attorney for review, comments and recommendations.

6) Board made changes based on attorney review to create proposed restated and amended document.

7) Proposal was published to the membership along with notice of meeting to vote on changes. As we could utilize proxies, the Board and committee went door to door and contacted non-resident members requesting proxies.

8) Meeting was held and document voted on (we chose to vote on the whole document vs. each section).

9) As the vote approved the changes, the adopted document was sent to the attorney for filing. Once filed, the adopted document was published to the membership.
BobD4 (up north)
Posts: 1,002
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Posted By DaneE on 02/18/2016 2:48 PM
. . . .CC&R's and By-Laws that have not been touched since 1969 (other than a land annex in 1974). . . I've thought of a lot of issues or concerns that the last 50 years could have, but I really would like some input from outside sources. Thanks!

DaneE (TX ): Respectfully, near the top of a "To Update since 1970" list should be transparency for stakeholders and a credible internal dispute resolution process.

Dissenters & kvetchers need a GENUINE fair chance to lawfully have their beefs heard & lawfully resolved other than toxically or by some oppressive majority override contrary to law. These are not a guarantee against flat out sociopathy. But they encourage respectful interactions.

Your reviewers respectfully should ask themselves how - even though lawful decisions by majority or a court ultimately have to prevail - ( how) they would like to have their dissenting views and property rights protected even if a majority of other owners or Board members totally disagrees.

BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
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depending on what your originals say, here's some other things that might (or might not) need consideration:

methods of communication, between board members AND to the community. Are you still required to send mail? must you post on a bulletin board? Can you update to include electronic communication? telephonic? Must requests for agenda topics be delivered in writing via a letter, or can a text or email work? can minutes be posted or provided electronically?

Methods of payment: perhaps update to allow newer forms, or at least, remove restrictions that disallow them for future boards (ie, dues payable by cash or check could be altered to dues payable by cash, check or other means as determined by the treasurer/board).

additional committees that may have formed (or disappeared) since then: may want to set up their functions, scope, membership, etc..

new collections methods/policies, if you have them (how liens will work, fees for collecting debts, etc.).

KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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Brain offers good suggestions. do note that some are about CC&Rs, but many are about bylaws.
BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
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Oh, and if you have one forbidding any business to be run from the home: you probably want to update that to say what you want it to say (no traffic, or no deliveries, or no commercial ovens, day care, etc.).

KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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We hope to rewrite our CC&Rs this year.

When we hired new HOA counsel a couple of years ago, we asked each of the 4 what is the most problematic part of their CC&Rs for a place like us (we're a high rise). Each of the four replied ambiguity about maintenance items.

With detached homes, this might be simpler, but still....

A major topic nowadays is rental limitations.
ArtT5 (Illinois)
Posts: 84
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I don't know about elsewhere, but where we live, CCRs and bylaws are filed with the county recorder and can be downloaded free of charge. It's a good idea to look at documents for similar associations, particularly if you can identify some that appear to be well run. I'm not suggesting you should copy them, but see what provisions you may want to replicate in your own.
DaneE (Texas)
Posts: 12
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The By-Laws and CC&R's can be viewed at www.stoneridgetxhoa.com

Any input and help in improving them would be appreciated greatly.
BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
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Posted By DaneE on 02/18/2016 2:48 PM
My HOA is about to undergo the process of updating our CC&R's and By-Laws that have not been touched since 1969 (other than a land annex in 1974). What concerns and issues should the new CC&R's and By-Laws address? I've thought of a lot of issues or concerns that the last 50 years could have, but I really would like some input from outside sources.

Thanks!

Good Luck. A lot of good advise has been given. We had our annual meeting Tuesday, February 23. We did pass some amendments to our documents. Updating documents is a very time consuming and expensive project.

After we delivered/mailed the notice of the annual meeting, Board Members divided our owner list into 4 sections and assigned 4 Board Member to call the members in a certain section to emphasis how important this meeting would be. We did not pass all the proposed amendments but I am pleased with the progress we have made.
BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
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Posted By DaneE on 02/18/2016 2:48 PM
My HOA is about to undergo the process of updating our CC&R's and By-Laws that have not been touched since 1969 (other than a land annex in 1974). What concerns and issues should the new CC&R's and By-Laws address? I've thought of a lot of issues or concerns that the last 50 years could have, but I really would like some input from outside sources.

Thanks!

Good Luck. A lot of good advise has been given. We had our annual meeting Tuesday, February 23. We did pass some amendments to our documents. Updating documents is a very time consuming and expensive project.

After we delivered/mailed the notice of the annual meeting, Board Members divided our owner list into 4 sections and assigned 4 Board Member to call the members in a certain section to emphasis how important this meeting would be. We did not pass all the proposed amendments but I am pleased with the progress we have made.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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Kudos, Bonnie--you take your role so seriously and I'm glad this worked out fairly well!
DaneE (Texas)
Posts: 12
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Thanks for the well wishes. It's a fairly daunting task, particularly in my HOA that doesn't have a lot of participation. We anticipate using the same method of dividing up and calling each homeowner as well as using the mailers and we also have a team doing door-to-door home visits. It may take time, but it will be well worth it.

Dane

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