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DonnaR5
Posts: 162
Posted:
If our HOA budgets a certain amount of money for an operating reserve, i.e., in case snow expenses are higher than usual, or an unexpected expense occurs during a year, and then doesn't spend that money by the end of the year, what are the tax implications? We file as an exempt HOA. Do we then pay taxes on the money we didn't spend?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Donna,

If the amount of operating funds that are left (caused by expenses being less then budgeted for) are transferred to the Reserves, there is no tax implication.

If the amount of operating funds that are left are used to offset the following years assessments, then there is no tax implication.

What we do, instead of having an operating fund contingency, is maintain a Reserve fund contingency that is utilized to cover budget shortfalls for reserve items and pay for extra heavy snow fall (we consider that maintenance of the roads, which is a common element). Any left over funds in the operational account is transferred to this contingency line item at the end of every year.
JH6 (Virginia)
Posts: 30
Posted:
I just wanted to add, having just gone through this, is that what Tim said is true about the operating funds being transferred to reserves with no tax liability, but you usually need to pass an explicit resolution called a 70-604 election to be consistent with IRS rules or something of the sort. Or so says our accountant.
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
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Posted By JH6 on 02/10/2016 8:25 AM
I just wanted to add, having just gone through this, is that what Tim said is true about the operating funds being transferred to reserves with no tax liability, but you usually need to pass an explicit resolution called a 70-604 election to be consistent with IRS rules or something of the sort. Or so says our accountant.


Description and sample at:

http://www.hoamco.com/assets/irs_revenue_ruling.pdf

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DavidW5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 565
Posted:
My experience in Virginia was different than what Tim described. In every one of our audit reports the auditor included a statement to the effect that the HOA should accumulate an operating contingency of between 10 to 20% of annual assessments. This contingency was the sum of annual operating surpluses (over and above what was transferred to the replacement reserve fund). These funds appeared on our balance sheet under "Fund Balance". When filing 1120-H these funds were not taxable, did not need to be transferred to replacement reserves and did not require an annual election under the cited IRS reg.

Dave
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
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Posted By DavidW5 on 02/10/2016 10:45 AM
My experience in Virginia was different than what Tim described. In every one of our audit reports the auditor included a statement to the effect that the HOA should accumulate an operating contingency of between 10 to 20% of annual assessments. This contingency was the sum of annual operating surpluses (over and above what was transferred to the replacement reserve fund). These funds appeared on our balance sheet under "Fund Balance". When filing 1120-H these funds were not taxable, did not need to be transferred to replacement reserves and did not require an annual election under the cited IRS reg.

70-604 only applies if you are filing form 1120 to take advantage of the 15% tax rate on non-exempt income. If you file 1120-H instead, you're non-exempt income is taxed at 30% but you don't have to make a special election.


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DonnaR5
Posts: 162
Posted:
DavidWS, what you describe is what I've read in some places, contradicted in other places, until I finally thought I would turn here for some clarification. So, when does such a contingency fund become taxable -- over a certain percentage of total budget, or some other formula?
DonnaR5
Posts: 162
Posted:
Tim, the idea of snow removal being a capital reserves item is surprising to me. I thought this fund was for replacement and repair.
DavidW5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 565
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Posted By DonnaR5 on 02/10/2016 1:11 PM
DavidWS, what you describe is what I've read in some places, contradicted in other places, until I finally thought I would turn here for some clarification. So, when does such a contingency fund become taxable -- over a certain percentage of total budget, or some other formula?

Donna,

I think the situation is that - IF your operating contingency were more than 20% of annual assessments AND the IRS were to audit your HOA, then there might or might not be an issue. If you stay withing that level I don't think you have anything to worry about.

At my former HOA when the operating contingency began to exceed that 20% level we established a separate Capital Improvement Fund specifically to fund new amenities for the HOA.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
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Posted By DonnaR5 on 02/10/2016 1:14 PM
Tim, the idea of snow removal being a capital reserves item is surprising to me. I thought this fund was for replacement and repair.

Per VA ยง 55-514.1, Reserves are repair, replace and restore the capital components.

Per Merriam-Webster, to restore is to return (something) to an earlier or original condition by repairing it, cleaning it, etc.

Per Merriam-Webster, repair is to restore by replacing a part or putting together what is torn or broken; to restore to a sound or healthy state.

We consider removing the snow is akin to performing preventative maintenance. It restores the roadway to it's earlier condition and aids in keeping the road in a sound and healthy state (to utilize the definitions above).

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Donna,

Keep in mind that we still budget annually for snow removal within our Operating funds.

We only utilize the contingency line item in the reserves when the snow removal costs exceed what we had budgeted. The 2010 storms is what prompted the need for this buffer as that winter exceeded our budgeted amount by $12,000.

Mind you, we only budget $2,500 each year to go into the contingency line item along with any interest earned on the reserve account.
ArtT5 (Illinois)
Posts: 84
Posted:
I've been astonished at the amount of misinformation out there on these tax issues. Some of it posted by tax professionals who claim great expertise and write extensively about HOA taxation, making it difficult for someone without training in this area to know what to believe. Relevant to the OP, here are the most important things to understand:

1. If your HOA qualifies to file as exempt (filing Form 1120-H), do so, and ignore talk about the potential advantage of filing as a taxable corporation (Form 1120), which rarely saves more than a trivial amount of tax and entails complexities and risks that make it foolhardy in all but the rarest cases.

2. Now that you know you're filing Form 1120-H you can ignore everything you see about Rev. Rul. 70-604, as it doesn't apply when filing this form. (And you should probably ignore everything you see about that ruling anyway, as almost everything written about it on the internet is incorrect.)

3. Better still, when you file Form 1120-H, the IRS doesn't care what you do with excess member assessments. You can return them to members, transfer them to a capital reserve, retain them in the operating account, or put them in a separate, non-capital reserve (which may be called an operating reserve or a contingency reserve). You don't pay tax on these amounts, regardless of what you do with them, and regardless of how much you accumulate or how you choose to hold the funds. That's the main point of the law that created exempt HOAs.

As an exempt HOA you still have to pay tax on non-exempt income, which is basically anything other than member assessments (investment income, income from renting the clubhouse, etc.). Many "experts" will point out that the tax rate on this income is 30% when you file 1120-H and 15% when you file 1120, but never mention that when you file 1120, the amount you have to report as taxable income may be far larger than the amount that would be taxable when filing 1120-H. Better to pay 30% on $4,000 than 15% on $40,000.

Keep it simple. File Form 1120-H. Ignore the nonsense about Rev. Rul. 70-604. Don't worry about having IRS problems when accumulating excess assessments, because that's never a problem when filing Form 1120-H.
JH6 (Virginia)
Posts: 30
Posted:
ArtT5, we would pay the IRS about $1300 more by filing an 1120-H (even including savings on accounting fees because the form is shorter and simpler). But I'd rather spend the 3 minutes it takes to file the 70-604 resolution. I suspect most condos in our area would be in the same situation.
JH6 (Virginia)
Posts: 30
Posted:
ArtT5, we would pay the IRS about $1300 more by filing an 1120-H (even including savings on accounting fees because the form is shorter and simpler). But I'd rather spend the 3 minutes it takes to file the 70-604 resolution. I suspect most condos in our area would be in the same situation.
JH6 (Virginia)
Posts: 30
Posted:
ArtT5, we would pay the IRS about $1300 more by filing an 1120-H (even including savings on accounting fees because the form is shorter and simpler). But I'd rather spend the 3 minutes it takes to file the 70-604 resolution. I suspect most condos in our area would be in the same situation.
JH6 (Virginia)
Posts: 30
Posted:
EDIT: sorry, repeated.
ArtT5 (Illinois)
Posts: 84
Posted:
One of the problems is that people have been advised that filing a 70-604 resolution is all it takes to eliminate the need to pay tax on excess assessment income. Fortunately for many HOAs following this approach, IRS audit activity in this area is light, but it's not a risk I'd want my HOA to take.
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
Doesn't the IRS treat funds for painting differently? I haven't researched it, but last year someone told me at our bookkeeping firm's summer picnic that reserve funds for painting might be taxable due to the IRS's determination that painting wasn't necessary maintenance. Or something like that.
ArtT5 (Illinois)
Posts: 84
Posted:
Geno, you've touched on one of the issues that can make your tax return blow up if you file Form 1120 instead of 1120-H. As a practical matter, painting can be a significant expense that is done at intervals of several years, so it makes sense to set aside reserve money for this purpose. However, the IRS treats painting as a current expense rather than a capital expenditure. This means there is reason to doubt whether the IRS would permit you to avoid paying tax on assessments set aside as reserves for this purpose, even if you genuflect at the altar of Rev. Rul. 70-604 each year. If you file Form 1120-H, you do not have this issue: you can set aside money for painting or anything else you want, without paying tax as long as the source of the money is member assessments.

I stress that this is only one of the issues. Suppose you simply want to add money to a contingency fund that will allow you to survive a bad year without making a special assessment? Rev. Rul. 70-604 doesn't let you do that. You would have to pay tax on the money you accumulated for this purpose -- unless you file Form 1120-H (in which case the ruling is irrelevant).

Rev. Rul. 70-604 does one thing, and one thing only. It allows an association to be treated as if it returned excess assessments to its members without actually returning them, if and only if the association uses the excess to reduce the following year's assessments. It doesn't allow the association to retain excess assessments; it merely provides an alternative method of returning them.
JoyceR2 (Virginia)
Posts: 156
Posted:
Interesting....

Snow does reoccur. Budgeting would be for normal occurrences. Anything basically outside of this would constitute normally emergency situations which are defined as "an act of God" in basic terms which is not of a recurring nature.

We had emergency snow issues in VA last year increasing higher snow removal cost. We do not reserve (plan) for snow but budget.

Reserve studies that I have seen do not include specifics to snow removal. It is considered an operating cost.

DanaT (Tennessee)
Posts: 214
Posted:
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Posted By JoyceR2 on 07/31/2016 2:26 PM
Interesting....

Snow does reoccur. Budgeting would be for normal occurrences. Anything basically outside of this would constitute normally emergency situations which are defined as "an act of God" in basic terms which is not of a recurring nature.

We had emergency snow issues in VA last year increasing higher snow removal cost. We do not reserve (plan) for snow but budget.

Reserve studies that I have seen do not include specifics to snow removal. It is considered an operating cost.


Ours is the same way. Our budget is over $12,000 for snow removal. 300 Units and you can walk the entire property in 10 to 15 min.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Joyce,

I'll post a copy of our policy concerning the contingency fund later tonight.
Our auditor recommend that we combine all of the board decisions into such a policy to make it easier for future audits (as we had to point to several different documents and meeting minutes to show the Boards decisions).
Our auditor had zero issues with this practice.

Tim
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
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Joyce,

Attached is our administrative resolution.

Tim
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JoyceR2 (Virginia)
Posts: 156
Posted:
Thanks Tim..

What required you to create this resolution as opposed to a board motion regarding reserves?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
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As I pointed out earlier, we had been doing simple board motions and recording them in our minutes.

In our last audit, the CPA asked for documentation about everything in the resolution. This resulted in having to located all of the motions and point to the specific minutes and notations in the reserve studies to prove board authorization. The CPA advised that it would be easier for future audits if all of that info and authorizations were in a simple resolution.

Acting on that advice had us produce that document. It's not as polished of a document as I would have liked, but it serves it's purpose and the Board has been very busy this year so we didn't put a lot of time into the document discussing nuances of the language used (like we were doing for 2 other policy resolutions we are bringing to the membership this year).
JoyceR2 (Virginia)
Posts: 156
Posted:
Thank you... got stuck on the resolution thinking it was due to language in a governing document. Not up on the tax side of all this. As for audits, not sure they cover anything but checking methods they use to claim no money is missing. Not sure they do anything in terms of right or wrong governing document requirements.

Bottom line is, its your call and you seem very prudent.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
An audit is a review of the finances and procedures associated with them and standard accounting practices only.

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