recall petition sheets

JackP4 (California)
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With the advent of social media things are changing. If we posted the petition on our Facebook page, each title owner on our site could download, print and sign the petition and the send or deliver it to whomever. Is this possible? Facebook -- Bermuda Dunes Country Club Homeowners and Residents. Sorry about all the questions, other people's experience will save us time and mistakes--

KerryL1 (California)
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Jack, you & those who support your point if view need to do your homework. On this site, Richard is a season seed property mgr., but the rest of us don't know w your documents. You've been handed the davis-stirling.com site to visit. go there for the details.

If you & others at h your HOA don't have the skill sets to get the recall procedure exactly right, chip in together to hire an HOA attorney for an hour so that can educate you.

Also look at the rules for positing here: Do not y use any names including of your HOA. Thank you.

JackP4 (California)
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Posted By KerryL1 on 02/01/2016 7:27 AM
Jack, you & those who support your point if view need to do your homework. On this site, Richard is a season seed property mgr., but the rest of us don't know w your documents. You've been handed the davis-stirling.com site to visit. go there for the details.

If you & others at h your HOA don't have the skill sets to get the recall procedure exactly right, chip in together to hire an HOA attorney for an hour so that can educate you.

Also look at the rules for positing here: Do not y use any names including of your HOA. Thank you.

Getting an attorney and acknowledge the rules---Thanks

RichardP13 (California)
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Posted By JackP4 on 02/01/2016 8:37 AM

Posted By KerryL1 on 02/01/2016 7:27 AM
Jack, you & those who support your point if view need to do your homework. On this site, Richard is a season seed property mgr., but the rest of us don't know w your documents. You've been handed the davis-stirling.com site to visit. go there for the details.

If you & others at h your HOA don't have the skill sets to get the recall procedure exactly right, chip in together to hire an HOA attorney for an hour so that can educate you.

Also look at the rules for positing here: Do not y use any names including of your HOA. Thank you.

Getting an attorney and acknowledge the rules---Thanks

You have a monumental task ahead of you. Your management company is the largest in the world and their resources are limitless.

JackP4 (California)
Posts: 20

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Big is big, but illegal is illegal. We did some checking and the HOA still does not have election rules either!!! Isn't the management team SUPPOSED to advise the board?

RichardP13 (California)
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Jack

Each association, by statue, are required to have a set of election rules. This comes from changes to civil code in 2006. I am guessing that only 25% of the HOA's in California actually have them. It's not the end of the world, but restricts a management company or attorney from acting as the inspector of elections.

A management company will help GUIDE an HOA and offer opinions. Advice is generally referred as coming from attorneys, which we are not.

Is the Security Association the master association?

BTW, yours is the only golf course I never got a chance to play from the old Bob Hope Desert Classic rotation.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
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Jack,

Please review the forums posting rules

RichardP13 (California)
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Posted By TimB4 on 02/01/2016 9:35 AM
Jack,

Please review the forums posting rules

He had already acknowledge a mistake was made.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059

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Must have missed it.

JackP4 (California)
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Posted By RichardP13 on 02/01/2016 9:09 AM
Jack

Each association, by statue, are required to have a set of election rules. This comes from changes to civil code in 2006. I am guessing that only 25% of the HOA's in California actually have them. It's not the end of the world, but restricts a management company or attorney from acting as the inspector of elections.

A management company will help GUIDE an HOA and offer opinions. Advice is generally referred as coming from attorneys, which we are not.

Is the Security Association the master association?

we have an HOA that deals with construction/landscape. The bulk of the money goes to the security assoc, which in the cc&rs is suppose to deal with gates, walls, streets and other security matters, period. Now they have spend about 48K in negotiations with the CC to help the rest of the homeowners pay to keep the private golf course alive. Nothing in the agenda, minutes, no public discussion at a board meeting.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
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Jack is jumping around some with his posts, but as I read it one issue is the association is putting a $50 per month for 3 years ($1,800 total per home) dues/assessment increase out for an owner vote. The assessment will be to keep the existing private golf club (Bermuda Dunes Country Club) in the black. The club can only allow so many non-member rounds per its bylaws so increasing public play is not allowed. The assessment will also make all owners club members. They will need 51% (over 700 or more) of the owners to approve the increase.

This is far from the first of its kind issue. It is happening all over. One place I know in SC requires a $10K membership upon purchasing a home site or a home. Another one in MA was each owner had to pay the club a $300 per year social membership fee. In both cases this is a membership fee only. Any other charges (golf, food, pool, tennis, etc.) are above and beyond.

JackP4 (California)
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Posted By JohnC46 on 02/01/2016 2:46 PM
Jack is jumping around some with his posts, but as I read it one issue is the association is putting a $50 per month for 3 years ($1,800 total per home) dues/assessment increase out for an owner vote. The assessment will be to keep the existing private golf club (Bermuda Dunes Country Club) in the black. The club can only allow so many non-member rounds per its bylaws so increasing public play is not allowed. The assessment will also make all owners club members. They will need 51% (over 700 or more) of the owners to approve the increase.

This is far from the first of its kind issue. It is happening all over. One place I know in SC requires a $10K membership upon purchasing a home site or a home. Another one in MA was each owner had to pay the club a $300 per year social membership fee. In both cases this is a membership fee only. Any other charges (golf, food, pool, tennis, etc.) are above and beyond.

I made an error putting a name on my post, could you take it off? (against the forum rules) Anyway the big difference that the people in SC KNOW when they purchase the home site that is the rule. Here we bought knowing that we were totally separate from the private CC. I am OK with that. the problem is OUR BOD's are trying to change the rules. Our rules have been in place for 50 years. There is another CC nearby is currently in litigation naming the Board members individually as defendants. I will try to use one thread to have continuity.

JackP4 (California)
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Posted By TimB4 on 02/01/2016 9:35 AM
Jack,

Please review the forums posting rules

is the support line the same as admin? I put another name on another post and I need it removed.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059

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Yes.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
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Posted By JackP4 on 02/01/2016 3:33 PM

Posted By JohnC46 on 02/01/2016 2:46 PM
Jack is jumping around some with his posts, but as I read it one issue is the association is putting a $50 per month for 3 years ($1,800 total per home) dues/assessment increase out for an owner vote. The assessment will be to keep the existing private golf club (Bermuda Dunes Country Club) in the black. The club can only allow so many non-member rounds per its bylaws so increasing public play is not allowed. The assessment will also make all owners club members. They will need 51% (over 700 or more) of the owners to approve the increase.

This is far from the first of its kind issue. It is happening all over. One place I know in SC requires a $10K membership upon purchasing a home site or a home. Another one in MA was each owner had to pay the club a $300 per year social membership fee. In both cases this is a membership fee only. Any other charges (golf, food, pool, tennis, etc.) are above and beyond.

I made an error putting a name on my post, could you take it off? (against the forum rules) Anyway the big difference that the people in SC KNOW when they purchase the home site that is the rule. Here we bought knowing that we were totally separate from the private CC. I am OK with that. the problem is OUR BOD's are trying to change the rules. Our rules have been in place for 50 years. There is another CC nearby is currently in litigation naming the Board members individually as defendants. I will try to use one thread to have continuity.

Jack

In one major SC case the one time assessment was put in place (about 2005) for new home/land purchases. They had also put in a special assessment (late 80's) for beach erosion and that varied depend on where you lived as in on the beach or not. Lookup up Seabrook Island.

I am not defending what nor how your association is doing this. I am simply saying it is not uncommon.