Violation Question

Seems to me that they would have to prove it, by photos or video of the dog doing their business and you leaving it.

How to prepare for the meeting:
1. Take a few walks through the community. Bring a camera. Take pictures of all the dog poop you see.

2. Take your dog to his favorite location. Take a picture of your dog's poop.

3. At the hearing, show all the pictures. Ask them which of the pictures are of your dog's poop.

Wow! That's a great idea.I was out yesterday with my granddaughter and we found all kinds of mess. In fact it is 2:34 a.m. as I write this and I am up to drive my idiot dog to his 'poop park.' YES, I agree ten grand is insane. We are good tennants. I do not make any noise because I am profoundly deaf...so everything is cc. But this is a ridiculous claim.I am leaving as of Monday. I also agree that they have to show something or someone as proof and the proof is impossible.
Thank you all so much for sharing yourknowledge.
I appreciate any and all help. My hearing is at 5:30, FEB. 25TH.

I would hazard a guess that the 10000. is a typo or they are just trying to scare you, I am not an attorney, but no court of law would support such an extreme fine, would they? and on that note, you should check your documents to see what the actual violation fee's are and what the process is.

Here's a thought, if you take him for a walk every day, and he refuses to go, is it possible that people see you daily with your dog and no bag of poop to take home? So they can assume, (these days, too easily) that you don't pick it up because they don't see you carrying it home like a good dog owner does.

You should also canvas the community to see if other dog owners received one, to make sure that you are not being singled out.

And on a side note, your vet will have some ideas and options for how you can acclimate your dog to his new bathroom, a 2:30 bathroom run to another part of town is pretty extreme! Good luck!

AntoinetteT (Nevada)$10,000 per poop ! Just how big is your dog ?

Here is another thought... Go talk to your animal control services. Plus see if there is even an ordinance on the books with the city on such "crap" they put in the CC&R's. Seriously, your CC&R's have to be compliant to the city/local/state/federal laws. If your city does not have such a law, then I don't find this rule quite forcible laws. Plus animal control should lead you in the right direction of animal laws in your area.

Find out if your HOA does have a fining schedule and what it is. This 10K fine is a bit possibly on the illegal side of enforcing. Plus the fact that most HOA's fines can't be used as basis for a lien. They would have to do some fancy book work in order to make this a non-dues paying situation. Which some HOA's are known to do. They will apply your dues money to your fine amount making it look like your not paying dues. So find out if that is such a collections policy WITHOUT giving them the idea of doing it!!!

I have 4 dogs myself. My 2 young female dogs do NOT ever poop in public places. They will pee but they are little ladies when it comes to leaving a poopy. They will wait till they go into the backyard. So I can very well believe in your dog's retention issues. We also have a dog poo pick up service here. So I can hire them to clean up the back yard when necessary. Maybe you can ask about the HOA looking into that service instead of punishing everyone. People with dogs could pay for it. Problem solved.

Thank you so much for believing me regarding my stubborn pooper. I have tried every way to get him to be less shy however, even at his chosen park he practically stands in the bushes! I can't tell you how many times I have come home with twigs and leaves in my hair. But even that is better than the animosity I feel towards this home and whomever decided to start such baloney. I can't live like this. Now I find myself flashing the evil eye towards my neighbors. So, as soon as we received this OBVIOUS attempt to separate me from my money, my daughter immediately found a beautiful house. We are leaving. I am too old to deal with this infantile attitude. But I will not leave this threat undone.
Side note...my new place is a home with a gardener. But even he will never find waste on the ground.

BTW out of curiosity... Are you a renter or an owner? This would definitely change things. However, it's good you decided to move. Especially if you have people like this in your neighborhood. I have 2 male dogs and I let them do their business near the garbage dumpsters. There were no houses in that area and it already smelled. It would be a good idea if the HOA could establish a dog friendly area as well.

I always found it funny how my 2 female dogs never go number 2 unless at home. I've taken them to many public places and even parks. They would not go. My 2 male dogs on the other hand had no shame... LOL!

First, I wanted to answer what kind of a dog I have. I think of his breed as either Secret Pooper or Idiot Savant. The world recognizes him as a mixed breed, Labrador/Boxer. He is about 3 and weighs 48 lbs. He is also a shelter baby. His previous owner(s) beat him so bad they cracked his skull. His head is flat on one side and one eye is smaller. He has a heart of gold. I can't be without a dog because I am profoundly deaf. I have trained all my angels. He is not certified as a service animal. Through his actions I can hear. We needed each other.
Second, my dog will back up into a bush or against a tree trunk to do his duty. At 4 AM I have to get very close to even find his feces. I take my flashlight but that doesn't stop the foliage attaching itself to me.
Third, I am leasing from an out of state landlord. It remains to be seen if we are held to the contraxt. She absolutely has the right hold us to a dead lease. I accept that. I will never accept a lie.
Thank you all for your knowledge.

Good news... Your a renter. The HOA can NOT do anything to you directly. They have to contact your landlord. Your landlord is the one that is the HOA member. You are NOT. Which means the HOA is to hold your landlord's feet to the ground.

Now, you need to read your lease to find out if you are to adhere to the rules of the HOA. That would be a condition of your lease they can evict you on for violating. However, if that is NOT in your lease, then the landlord can't evict you. They can only evict you for the conditions in the lease. The HOA can't force them to evict you as a tenant does have rights.

Since your leaving anyways, make sure to give proper notice to your landlord. If you want to fight, then I could give you further advice. In the meantime, tell the HOA to go pound sand. They need to talk to your landlord. They can't touch you.

Sometimes, Melissa's rules are only good in Melissaville.