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AndreaW (North Carolina)
Posts: 57
Posted:
I am serving as a member of the nominating committee for our upcoming election. I would like to know if a person requesting to be presented as a nominee who may be in violation of the CCR's is considered an eligible candidate? I see no specific info in our bylaws relating to the definition of a member in good standing, or bonafide member.
Background info, this person sent a letter around the community recently, directly insulting the board and the Architectural review committee for a decision that was made regarding a his fence. His own failure to know his property lines and that there was a common area next to his property, caused for him to have to remove a portion of his fence which was infringing on the common area. Now he thinks the board or HOA should have to pay him back for his own mistake. He was informed by an ARC comittee member before the fence company put it up that he should have his property surveyed to avoid costly mistakes. Now this person wants to run for a board position. He currently has only 1 side of his yard fenced which is a violation of the CCR's. Is he a candidate that the nominating committee in good conscience can put on the slate?
PaulM (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 1,347
Posted:
AndreaW:
IMO, no.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Andrea, the answer lies in your controlling documents. Do they allow or prevent him from being a candidate? Obviously, I would not want him on the Board when he has not shown good judgement and is not in good standing. So if the documents allow him to be a candidate I would make the facts known to those members who are eligible to vote.
JonD1
Posts: 2,350
Posted:
While you may not be able to prevent this person from running for the Board, as suggested you certainly can make those who will be voting aware of their history, actions, and agenda for seeking a Board position.

In my expierence it is sometimes GOOD for such a person to run.

Let them find out first hand how much support they have and that their motivations are not lost on the property owners.

We had a former Board President who when she failed to perform her duties was removed by the remaining Board members.

This sent her off on a mission to destroy the Board and seek vegance against anyone with the nerve to vote her out.

As she was still a member of the Board she was up for election that year.

She sent out notices commenting on all the support she had, all the work she had done, and the positive points she felt her time as President provided the property.

But sadly for her the truth was provided to the property owners.

After the election results were in she recieved 6 votes out of 133.

Sort of told her and each and every owner what she was all about.

Let this person run and then work to see they are soundly defeated and this might go a long way to educate them that the Board is not a tool for their agenda.

AndreaW (North Carolina)
Posts: 57
Posted:
I have read all of the posts but still have a question:
If there is no way to block the candidate from running based on how our bylaws read or don't specify, how can word be sent out to the community to alert them as to the whole true story, without it causing more problems? this individual has already tried to physically harm one of the ARC comittee members when he approached him asking why he was passing around the flyers with his one sided story. The whole issue could have been avoided if this homewoner would have called in the surveyors and had his lot prperly staked. His Plat plan did show the common area, but he chose to ignore because he wanted to cut costs by attaching to his neighbors already existing fence. The problem is that htere is a 10ft. common area between the 2 properties. Now because he sent around a flyer blaming the Arc committee & Board, he has managed to persuade other homeowners into believing his story to be true, when in fact he has left out the most important facts that right now only the board and committee members have the priveledge of knowing. Is getting the facts out to the rest of the community the job of the committee or the board or neither? please advise. It would not be in the community's best interest to have this person serve to pursue his own agenda. Plus the fact that he has displayed such behavior goes a long way in showing the character of the individual. How will he ever hear what anyone else has to say when he believes his story is the truth?
Jadedone4 (Virginia)
Posts: 495
Posted:
Don't know if you (or anyone) "benefits" from the "war of words" avenue, with a member.

If you have copies of the plat, post them so that owners can "see" the area in question, and the obvious error by the member. "he said, she said..." is too cumbersome and time consuming. When you have facts on your side, present them, but ONLY the facts - there is no need to reside at the member's "level" in doing so.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
I'm curious if your documents mention if someone must be a member in good standing in order to VOTE. If a member cannot vote, it would seem a likely inference to draw that he can't be nominated.

Our By-laws do not specify whether "in good standing" means JUST having paid the dues. Therefore, we can define, as the board, that good standing also means that the resident cannot have any active or outstanding violations.
AndreaW (North Carolina)
Posts: 57
Posted:
In Our bylaws it reads: "Nominations and Declarations of Candidacy. Prior to each election of directors by the Class "A" members, the Board shall prescribe the opening date and the closing date of a reasonable filing period in which each and every eligible person who has a bonafide interest in serving as a director may file as a candidate for any position to be filled by votes of Class "a" Members. The Board shall also establish such other rules and regulations as it deems appropriate to conduct the nomination of directors in a fair, efficient and cost effective manner." They also go on to say how the board may appoint a nominating committee, which they have. However there is nothing saying anything about a member needing to be a member in good standing. The word bonafide as used above would indicate to us that the candidate have the best interest of the community at heart. So based on this what type of recourse do we have if the member is in battle with the BOD and the Arc committee. I had also heard that the member had a lein on their property because of the violation and I know at one point a couple of months back had his house up for sale.
Is there anything in roberts Rules that may override the bylaws with regard to a member in good standing? Is there anything anyone knows of that may be specific to North Carolina laws?
BradP (Kansas)
Posts: 2,640
Posted:
Andrea:

I see something in there about the board being able to establish other rules as it deems necessary. How about a rule that you must be in compliance with all covenants and up to date on assessments? I don't know if that is legal, perhaps others can chime in.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By AndreaW on 06/17/2007 8:05 PM
... The Board shall also establish such other rules and regulations as it deems appropriate to conduct the nomination of directors in a fair, efficient and cost effective manner." ...

Is there anything in roberts Rules that may override the bylaws with regard to a member in good standing? Is there anything anyone knows of that may be specific to North Carolina laws?

"Board shall establish such othe R&R" is your answer. Shall means "must" so the Board can pass a R&R stating: "To be an eligible candidate for the Board of Directors one must be a member who owns and lives on their property and it is in good standing. To be in good standing means the property is not delinquent and has no current outstanding notices of violations of restrictions."

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