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TomW (Utah)
Posts: 31
Posted:
I am an owner in a HOA in ski country in Utah. Our HOA Board at our last Annual Meeting in September failed to provide any financial information for the year to date status of our Association and did not provide any budget projections for this year. The Board then adopted a budget in November to meet the CC&R deadline of December 1st with no input or discussion with the membership. This budget requires a 38.5% increase in our annual dues. Approximately 75% of our membership have expressed a desire to revise the budget with owner input and discussion but the Board, with the advice of their legal counsel, paid for by the HOA, claims this is illegal.The owners have called for a special meeting, as provided in the CC&R's, to be called to recall the president but the Board seems to be stonewalling our request. The owners do not want to hire another attorney to litigate against the Board since in effect the owners would be paying both attorneys to fight each other. What is our best course of action to regain control of our HOA?
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
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What is the exact wording in your bylaws that describes what the board must do when a request for a special meeting is made?

Sikubali jukumu. Read all posts at your own risk.
TomW (Utah)
Posts: 31
Posted:
It states that a Board member can be recalled with a 51% vote of the total Association. The Board's legal counsel has admitted that the call for a special meeting is valid but the Board is failing to act. It was also stated in our call for a special meeting to revise the budget but legal counsel advised the Board that only the Board can set the budget and it cannot be revised after the December 1st deadline. In my opinion our Board is just hiding behind their legal counsel.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Tom,

The subject line of this thread is that the Board is not following State law.

What is the law the Board is not following?

TomW (Utah)
Posts: 31
Posted:
Sorry for the confusion in my topic line. Utah law states that contributions to a reserve fund must be presented to the membership for discussion and approval. This has not been done. The budget which should cover normal operations should stand on its own, insurance, normal maintenance, management fees, utilities, etc. and major improvements and upgrades should be covered by a special assessment. Our Board just grouped all expenses together without any input or discussion from the owners.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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I know everyone’s mad at the president, but the entire board should be held responsible for this, as he’s only one vote. It’s one thing to recall him, but you may want to check your documents to see where board officers come from –in most HOAs, the homeowners vote (or vote out) the board members and the board members then elect officers among themselves. That means someone from the current group will take charge (unless you plan to sack everyone).

A 38.5% assessment increase is hefty, but before you toss it altogether, you need to see what’s in it and why (you may have an underfunded reserve fund and/or deferred maintenance that’s caught up with you and needs to be addressed right now). That’s where a special meeting would be very helpful. If this board won’t cooperate, why not get a petition together of all the homeowners who feel as you do, and send a letter to the board AND association attorney stating that if the board doesn’t call a meeting, the homeowners will do it themselves – with the agenda featuring a discussion on a possible recall of one or several board members. Otherwise, the board is expected to attend and be prepared to explain to everyone the reason for the increase with supporting documentation.

If you go this route, you’ll need to have help in pulling this meeting together (date, time, finding a location, etc.) and if a recall becomes necessary, you’d better have people who are willing and able to step up and do the work (you perhaps?) Good luck!

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
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Posted By TomW on 01/20/2016 7:38 AM
Utah law states that contributions to a reserve fund must be presented to the membership for discussion and approval.

Looked at UT condo law. All I could find was this on any of the issues you raised:

57-8-24. Common profits, common expenses, and voting rights.
The common profits of the property shall be distributed among, the common expenses shall be charged to,
and the voting rights shall be available to, the unit owners according to their respective percentage or fractional
undivided interests in the common areas and facilities.

If you have a different statutory reference on your topics, please provide.

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TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
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Posted By TomW on 01/20/2016 7:38 AM
Sorry for the confusion in my topic line. Utah law states that contributions to a reserve fund must be presented to the membership for discussion and approval. This has not been done.

Based on Community Association Act, specifically 57-8a-215, the Board does not require membership approval for a budget.

The membership has an opportunity to reject the board adopted budget at a meeting called for that purpose within 45 days of the budget being released to the membership.

Expecting that the Board informed the membership of the budget on December 1, 2015, you are already pass the 45 day deadline. Therefore, even if the board is recalled, the budget stands (at least that is my reading of the statute).

Or, are you within a condominium development?

If you are, per Condominium Ownership Act, specifically 57-8-7.5, there is the same 45 day deadline for rejecting the reserve fund (which you mentioned earlier). Again, it appears that this time frame has passed and the budget would stand.
BobD4 (up north)
Posts: 1,002
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TomW Utah :

- It would respectfully be a helpful good idea if - as requested by TimB4 above - you could cite specifically the Utah state law which you state the Board is "not following"

For example Utah Code Title 57 Real Estate
http://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title57/57.html?v=C57_1800010118000101

. . . which of eg ch 8 Condo ownership or ch 8A community assn ?

- Some jurisdictions specify literally that a Board is technically NOT under an obligation to actually call a requisition-type/recall-type meeting.

Instead - as mine - it may for example specify that Requisition seekers next acquire a right to call & control their own meeting if the target Board applies a legislated full discretion NOT to call such.

Watch what may well happen at the Requisitioner-convened Owners Meeting which the Requisitioners - NOT the target Board - may be legislated to have a right to chair and conduct if they are able to meet quorum etc . . .

- Thus identifying the Utah law as requested above - respectfully not what you may fully and accurately think are its contents - will help.

- a "51 % vote" is technically not the same threshold as a vote of "more than 50 %". With larger numbers of potential units eg 400 , this makes a difference.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
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Posted By TimB4 on 01/20/2016 8:38 AM

Or, are you within a condominium development?

If you are, per Condominium Ownership Act, specifically 57-8-7.5, there is the same 45 day deadline for rejecting the reserve fund (which you mentioned earlier). Again, it appears that this time frame has passed and the budget would stand.

Keep in mind that per the definitions of that statute,"Association of unit owners" means all of the unit owners: acting as a group in accordance with the declaration and bylaws; or
organized as a legal entity in accordance with the declaration.

Translation, the Association as ran by the Board of Directors (or you could simply substitute the Board of Directors for this term).

It does not mean the actual members. They are instead identified within that act as "unit owners"
TomW (Utah)
Posts: 31
Posted:
The statute is Utah SB64.
RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 3,868
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Posted By TomW on 01/20/2016 6:37 AM
I am an owner in a HOA in ski country in Utah. Our HOA Board at our last Annual Meeting in September failed to provide any financial information for the year to date status of our Association and did not provide any budget projections for this year. The Board then adopted a budget in November to meet the CC&R deadline of December 1st with no input or discussion with the membership. This budget requires a 38.5% increase in our annual dues. Approximately 75% of our membership have expressed a desire to revise the budget with owner input and discussion but the Board, with the advice of their legal counsel, paid for by the HOA, claims this is illegal.The owners have called for a special meeting, as provided in the CC&R's, to be called to recall the president but the Board seems to be stonewalling our request. The owners do not want to hire another attorney to litigate against the Board since in effect the owners would be paying both attorneys to fight each other. What is our best course of action to regain control of our HOA?

Is there any limit on the amount or percentage in the increase of an annual assessment without membership approval?
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
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Posted By TomW on 01/20/2016 9:11 AM
The statute is Utah SB64.

The Utah SB64 I found is about educator employment reform.

Sikubali jukumu. Read all posts at your own risk.
RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 3,868
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Posted By NpS on 01/20/2016 2:32 PM
Posted By TomW on 01/20/2016 9:11 AM
The statute is Utah SB64.

The Utah SB64 I found is about educator employment reform.

It is in the 2013 session
DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
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Here is a link that says SB64 (Senate Bill, maybe) passed in 2013, but as of the posting date had not been signed by the governor. In my state, bills get statute numbers once enacted, since there could be an SB64 every year, but there's only one statute 720 (although it does get amended by House and Senate Bills). No idea how it works in Utah.

http://utahhoalawblog.com/tag/2013-utah-hoa-laws/

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
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Based on the link to SB-64, it appears it was enacted and is now part of the condominium statute I provided earlier.

Per that statute), how to fund the Reserves is a Board decision. This is also spelled out in the link to SB-64 the OP is relying on: "As I noted before, this law will give the decision back to the board of whether and how to fund a reserve."

The OP stated that they did get a petition for a special meeting to recall the President. That was a mistake. The petition should have been for a special meeting to reject the proposed budget. Now the 45 day deadline has passed.

The OP also believes that the budget is required to be discussed with the members and that the members have input prior to the budget being adopted. Even though that would be nice, it is not what the law requires. Hence the HOA attorney was correct in pointing out that budgetary authority rests with the Board. The membership may reject said budget but only if they request (using procedures outlined in their governing documents to call a special meeting of the membership) to hold a meeting for that specific purpose. Per Tom's posting, this was not done.

Tom, my suggestion is to use this as a learning experience. Gather support and vote the existing Board (as was pointed out earlier, the President is simply the voice of the Board but the decision was that of the whole Board) and replace them with individuals who will include the membership in such discussions (perhaps you).

I know that this isn't what you wanted to hear.
I hope it helps,

Tim

NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
Posted:
Good explanation Tim.

Sikubali jukumu. Read all posts at your own risk.
TomW (Utah)
Posts: 31
Posted:
Sorry about the error on the Utah law. It should be 57-8-7.5.

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