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FredW5 (Florida)
Posts: 177
Posted:
Hello, All.
Our community has not published a newsletter in over seven years.
I as Vp have discussed with the board, and they all agreed to publish quarterly.
The "Fly in the ointment":
Some members do not want their phone numbers or E-mails published in the newsletters.
I disagreed, and mentioned that I believe it is important in the interest of transparency that at least e-mails ought to be included, and that HOA board members can respond with a simple "Your concerns are duly noted, and will be discussed with the entire board, and management company for a resolution" Or something similar.

What if any, community newsletter contact info does your community include, if any?
Thanks!!
Fred
RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 3,868
Posted:
Fred

Set up a forwarding email address such as, [email protected]. The email will be forwarded to the email addresses you want sent to.

I wouldn't give my phone number, but don't have an issue with my email address being out there, although others may.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Fred,

Having been on the receiving end of member's calls and emails, I agree that publishing the otherwise private phone numbers and emails of board members is a bad idea.

Your association should have its own permanent email address for owners to post their questions and concerns to. You can establish one for free on Gmail or some other service. One of the officers should be tasked with responding, even if the response is, "Your concerns are duly noted, and will be discussed with the entire board, and management company for a resolution".

If you have a management company, use their phone number. If you are self-managed and have neither a phone nor someone to answer the phone then do not print a phone number.
AnnH5 (Florida)
Posts: 304
Posted:
If you have a property management company, why not just publish their contact information and allow them to field questions and inquiries? There will likely be questions that the management company can easily answer and the true "Board" questions can be forwarded to the Board.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Fred

Our association has an Email address such as ourassociation@whatever. We ask that all Emails go there. The account is setup so each Email if forwarded to all BOD Members and to the management company.

We also have agreed that only the President will respond in writing so we do not have BOD Members and the MC tripping over each other as had happened in the past. Occasionally the President will ask a BOD Member or the MC to directly respond.

We do not publicly reveal BOD Members Email nor phone numbers.

JonD1
Posts: 2,350
Posted:
Seems most agree e-mails and personal phone numbers are not required to satisfy the need for transparency.

We too have an MC who fields calls and presents letters or e-mails as part of our board packet.

It would not be good policy to have individual board members responding to particular contacts without input from the remaining board members.

In the end my contact information is mine and whether a board member or not I should decide who is provided that information.

In our case that is a role of our MC.
DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
Posted:
I agree with other's that I wouldn't want my personal email address distributed. It's much better to create permanent email addresses for each board position that can be passed on to new board members so that the senders don't have to keep up with changing addresses. For example, in my association, we have addresses like [email protected], [email protected]. That way homeowners/vendors, etc. have permanent addresses to communicate with the board, and board members don't share their personal addresses.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By DouglasK1 on 10/12/2015 12:59 PM
For example, in my association, we have addresses like [email protected], [email protected]. That way homeowners/vendors, etc. have permanent addresses to communicate with the board, and board members don't share their personal addresses.


That is an excellent idea.
FredW5 (Florida)
Posts: 177
Posted:
Great suggestions, everyone. I appreciate it.

We are going with the management companies' e-mail and phone numbers.

We have all the Board members names and E-mails on our secured website, but will just have the names.
Thanks again!!.

Fred
JerryD5 (Colorado)
Posts: 218
Posted:
Fred, let me tell you about our experience with emails. Until Nov 2013, the five board memmbers used our personal email addresses for board communication. The MC also put together a phone listing of board member's phone numbers for our internal use. It was not put out to the association. Well, one disgruntled wife of one of the board members was upset at the board for some actions we were taking against her. What does she do? Send out a media release to the entire metro area media companies (TV, radio, print) about how out-of-control our association was. It included contact email addresses and personal phone numbers for all the board members.

From then on, we went to generic emails and we do not publish anyone's phone number (we do have each other's numbers that we all know not to give out to the membership). In addition, any questions and emails from homeowners must go through the MC. If they feel it needs the board's attention, they forward it to us.

One final note about emails. If you use any personal email to conduct association business, your entire email is subject to discovery if the board/association is sued. That is another reason we went to generic emails. It is strictly used for HOA business. The account is also passed to the next board member if/when they are replaced.
GeorgeR8 (Arizona)
Posts: 182
Posted:
We are just the opposite. All unit owners have every board members phone number and email. We also distribute all unit owners emails and phone numbers unless they opt out, and only a couple do. Until I took over they did not get to opt out. Mostly people use our Facebook page to get in touch for non emergencies.

We had a board member that mentioned screening her calls. She was told she must always answer her phone. In an emergency they may be using another persons phone, a repairmen may need to know if something is allowed and what color, or it could be a dead body, we're 55+ so that happens.

The only thing we ask is no calls after 8pm unless it is an emergency and do not leave messages. If a person doesn't answer call another board member. They may be leaving a message for someone that is out of town. All board members are authorized to call whatever repair person needed in case of an emergency.

Every condo I have owned has been this way. If you don't want calls don't run for the board.

Now my number is listed in MLS when a unit is for sale so I get a fair amount of calls then. Mostly about pets, FHA, sometimes general info. Not a big deal.

LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JerryD5 on 10/12/2015 4:09 PM
If you use any personal email to conduct association business, your entire email is subject to discovery if the board/association is sued. That is another reason we went to generic emails. It is strictly used for HOA business. The account is also passed to the next board member if/when they are replaced.


Also, many states require full disclosure of association records upon demand of a member. If the association has personal phone numbers and email addresses in its records they would most likely have to be produced if demanded. Best course is to not keep records of these items. Board members should each have an official HOA email account, even though in states with open meeting laws they should not be communicating via email between meetings.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Fred,

We allow the Board members option of posting their phone number or not within our newsletter.

However, since the Association owns a domain and provides e-mail addresses for Directors, Officers and Committee Chairs, those e-mail addresses are published. I would never publish a personal e-mail address without permission.
FredW5 (Florida)
Posts: 177
Posted:
Thanks, everyone for your comments. We have decided to leave phone numbers and email addresses off with the exception of the MC 's in our newsletter.
ValK2 (Tennessee)
Posts: 65
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By GeorgeR8 on 10/12/2015 4:42 PM
We are just the opposite. All unit owners have every board members phone number and email. We also distribute all unit owners emails and phone numbers unless they opt out, and only a couple do.

Every condo I have owned has been this way. If you don't want calls don't run for the board.
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We do exactly this.

Board and Committee contact info--email and phone number--is in every monthly newsletter. Member contact information )address, phone and email) is included in the annual Community Directory.

One of the keys to a successful HOA is communication. Locking people out, or acting like you don't wish to hear from them, is a great way to create arrogance and encourage indifference, at best, and hostility, at worst.

When a member calls with a serious issue, we inform them that their concern will be added to the agenda for the next Board meeting. It raises things to a formal level, and ensures that the Member has a little skin in the game. If it isn't important enough for You, the Member, to bring it to a meeting, then it isn't important enough for the Board to expend time and effort on your behalf.

Engagement. One of the keys to a pleasurable community.

NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By ValK2 on 10/13/2015 7:21 AM
Posted By GeorgeR8 on 10/12/2015 4:42 PM
We are just the opposite. All unit owners have every board members phone number and email. We also distribute all unit owners emails and phone numbers unless they opt out, and only a couple do.

Every condo I have owned has been this way. If you don't want calls don't run for the board.



We do exactly this.

Board and Committee contact info--email and phone number--is in every monthly newsletter. Member contact information )address, phone and email) is included in the annual Community Directory.

One of the keys to a successful HOA is communication. Locking people out, or acting like you don't wish to hear from them, is a great way to create arrogance and encourage indifference, at best, and hostility, at worst.

When a member calls with a serious issue, we inform them that their concern will be added to the agenda for the next Board meeting. It raises things to a formal level, and ensures that the Member has a little skin in the game. If it isn't important enough for You, the Member, to bring it to a meeting, then it isn't important enough for the Board to expend time and effort on your behalf.

Engagement. One of the keys to a pleasurable community.


We have a rule that contractor's cannot begin work before 8am. A few start early. Others arrive on-site and begin prepping before 8. We have one owner who believes it is the board's responsibility to stop this behavior. So every time he hears anything outside, he calls my home to gripe. If there's someone out there at 7:30, I get a phone call at 8:31.

For those of you who say that this comes with the territory of being a Director, I would like your thoughts on this - There are members of my household who aren't directors and didn't sign up for anything. Should my family members also be able to enjoy a pleasurable community?

Sikubali jukumu. Read all posts at your own risk.
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
Posted:
CORRECTION: If there's someone out there at 7:30am, I get a phone call at 7:31.

Quote:
Posted By NpS on 10/13/2015 7:55 AM
Posted By ValK2 on 10/13/2015 7:21 AM
Posted By GeorgeR8 on 10/12/2015 4:42 PM
We are just the opposite. All unit owners have every board members phone number and email. We also distribute all unit owners emails and phone numbers unless they opt out, and only a couple do.

Every condo I have owned has been this way. If you don't want calls don't run for the board.



We do exactly this.

Board and Committee contact info--email and phone number--is in every monthly newsletter. Member contact information )address, phone and email) is included in the annual Community Directory.

One of the keys to a successful HOA is communication. Locking people out, or acting like you don't wish to hear from them, is a great way to create arrogance and encourage indifference, at best, and hostility, at worst.

When a member calls with a serious issue, we inform them that their concern will be added to the agenda for the next Board meeting. It raises things to a formal level, and ensures that the Member has a little skin in the game. If it isn't important enough for You, the Member, to bring it to a meeting, then it isn't important enough for the Board to expend time and effort on your behalf.

Engagement. One of the keys to a pleasurable community.


We have a rule that contractor's cannot begin work before 8am. A few start early. Others arrive on-site and begin prepping before 8. We have one owner who believes it is the board's responsibility to stop this behavior. So every time he hears anything outside, he calls my home to gripe. If there's someone out there at 7:30, I get a phone call at 8:31.

For those of you who say that this comes with the territory of being a Director, I would like your thoughts on this - There are members of my household who aren't directors and didn't sign up for anything. Should my family members also be able to enjoy a pleasurable community?


Sikubali jukumu. Read all posts at your own risk.
FredW5 (Florida)
Posts: 177
Posted:
Thanks for your comments, George.
I would like to add a note regarding "if you don't want calls, don't run for the board"

There is a reason why most communities have Property Managing companies. Part of their job is to deal directly with residents' questions, problems and concerns and then discuss them with the HOA board regarding how to resolve such concerns.

I have been on several boards in the communities that I live in. One community decided to publish our contact e-mails and phone numbers in a newsletter. Shortly thereafter I, and other board members began to receive calls at all hours from residents. Those that were valid, the resident was directed to call the management company for a resolution. The vast majority of calls were trivial, such as a call at 10 PM to my home complaining about several leaves in a resident's pool. (The resident wanted the tree cut down since it was dropping leaves in the fall.)I could elaborate futher, but in the interest of brevity, I won't.

So,my theory after reading all the input here, is "if you don't want calls, insure that residents know that there is a phone number, e-mail and contact to reach- The Management company and the person coordinating with the HOA board and residents."
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
We don't list phone numbers and never have.

Once upon a time there was a Hotmail account for the Board, but the president at the time deleted it when he left the board (there hadn't much correspondence and the amount that had been received was forwarded to the property manager and saved accordingly).

His successor then had the board members' emails published in the newsletter. I was on the board at that time, and had begun hearing about various issues regarding emails and phone numbers and people calling all day and night about Association business. I set up a separate email account to only deal with Association business. A good idea because I then read various blogs from HOA attorneys who suggested this as well, since your emails could be subject to discovery in a lawsuit and if you use a personal email, you'll have to cough up EVERYTHING so defense counsel can sift through it to find the Association emails.

I'm no longer on the board, but we still publish board member emails (some set up separate emails as I did). However, homeowners have been told that (1) the property manager is still primary contact for most questions regarding the Association, such as maintenance requests (2) all correspondence is property of the association (a good way to ward off people who might use threats and nasty language or otherwise show their ass when writing an email!) and (3) some correspondence may require a review by the entire board before a response is sent because it may involve something that requires a Board vote.

Fortunately, we haven't had any issues with emails - and pretty soon, it'll be a moot point because we'll be setting up a website (FINALLY!) and it will have an option to contact the Board on various issues.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
MichaelB32 (California)
Posts: 141
Posted:
I publish a Newsletter and Web site for our HOA. On it is my cell phone number. (e.g. http://harbourvistahoa.com). I get maybe one or two calls a month from mostly realtors looking for as copy of out HOA documents and sometimes homeowner. I get more email. I maybe naive, but this is not a lot of traffic. Also, if someone becomes a pest, I can always block the number to my cell. But then I am only the editor.

Michael Barto
[email protected]

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