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ArtN (Massachusetts)
Posts: 48
Posted:
HI, we are trying put together with our Board to hold Quaterly Owners meetings, similar to the ANNUAL MEETINGS< in order to get information which is not forth coming, with one Annual Meeting per year. We feel that the Quarterly Owners meeting will give the owners a chance to ask questions they may have throughout the year. Our Board does not have open Board meetings, so this would solve the problem of getting information. Has anyone experienced this type of meetings in their Association. We are anticipating that the Board will not go for these meetings.
PaulM (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 1,347
Posted:
ArtN: It is certainly warranted that residents want to be informed about what is going on in the community. Without a newsletter or regularly scheduled meetings, it is impossible for the Board to build a solid reputation and gain the confidence of community residents. Communication is key!

IMO, a quarterly meeting would be run very much like the annual meeting, with an agenda, perhaps a question & answer period at the end (10-15 min.) for residents to present their concerns. Minutes would be taken and made available.

Another type of meeting is a 'town hall meeting' wherein the residents basically discuss concerns and issues. The Board/Committees are not required to give their opinions or solutions, it is basically for the residents to come together to let the Board know what they are thinking. There are no minutes taken during a 'town hall' meeting. It is a good time for the Board to listen to feedback and gain an understanding of where the residents are coming from.

Good Luck with your efforts to encourage your Board to be more communicative.
RobertG (Arizona)
Posts: 505
Posted:
Before anyone else puts in the answer, what do the CC&Rs say? If there are no quarterly meetings in the CC&Rs, then there is no way you can force the board to accept.

However, I would suggest making the suggestion more along a Town Hall meeting. It is optional and non-binding. Maybe even a social event. It achieves the objective and doesn't require all the official action.
JonD1
Posts: 2,350
Posted:
Art:

I assume from your post you are NOT currently a member of your Board.

We had a similar suggestion made some time ago and perhaps I might share my opinion on this topic.

As a Board member each person gives their time to help your community for free.

If not for these community minded people where would you and the other property owners find themselves?

During the normal course of yearly business if your property is like most there would be 12 monthly meeting along with the annual owner's meeting.

That would total 13 meetings of voluntered time by the current Board members.

Now you would like to add 4 more meetings making a total of 17 nights of service for your Board.

Would you be willing to give up 17 nights of your time for free?

If the quarterly meetings were approved that would require the Board to attend but how about the unit owners? They can attend or decide to stay home but in any case the Board would have to sacrifice another night.

If done properly a Baord members job requires additional time between meetings and effort to do the job required. Board meetings are only part of the effort needed for many Boards.

I would suggest to you that asking your Board to now add 4 more meetings of their time is a lot to ask.

Perhaps those who really want to KNOW the goings on of the Board might consider joining the Board and then donate 13 nights of their time to the benefit of those who don't see fit to serve.
ArtN (Massachusetts)
Posts: 48
Posted:
Hi, JonD1, I appreciate your comments and interest, what you say is well founded, but in this case you would have to know all the facts, which is impossible to translate in this forum, in order to make you understand the situation. Yes, I am not a Board member, due to circumstances as I stated cannot post.
I will answer you in CAPS, I hope I can make my position understood, we are seeking all the help we can get.

Thanks I welcome your opinion,

Art:

I assume from your post you are NOT currently a member of your Board. CORRECT

We had a similar suggestion made some time ago and perhaps I might share my opinion on this topic.

As a Board member each person gives their time to help your community for free. THAT IS A GIVEN.

If not for these community minded people where would you and the other property owners find themselves?

During the normal course of yearly business if your property is like most there would be 12 monthly meeting along with the annual owner's meeting.

That would total 13 meetings of voluntered time by the current Board members.

WITH OUr SYSTEM WE ARE ASKING FOR THE 13 MEETING WOULD STILL BE HELD......3 QUARTER MEETING/REGULAR.... MEETINGS 9 REGULAR MEETINGS.....1 ANNUAL = 13 AM I WRONG?

Now you would like to add 4 more meetings making a total of 17 nights of service for your Board.

I UNDERSTAND, BUT THIS BOARD CHOOSES TO USE IT'S TIME TO KEEP INFORMATION AWAY FROM OWNERS.....SOUNDS CRAZY, BUT AS I STATED ABOVE UNUSAL CIRCUMSTANCES, I/WE OTHERS HAVE FORMED A CONCERNED OWNERS GROUP TO GET THINGS ON TRACK...ONE BEING THE QUARTERLY MEETINGS TO SEND A MESSAGE, OWNERS NEED TO BE INFORMED. ALSO WITH ONE ANNUAL MEETING, FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ONLY SEEN AT THE MEETING AND THE AVERAGE OWNER CANNOT DECIFER IT AND ASK QUESTIONS, ONLY HAVE TO LISTEN AND ACCEPT.... ALSO THIS WAY INTERESTED OWNERS WOULD GET TO SEE QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORTS, AND BECOME INTUNED AS WHAT IS GOING ON AND NOT NEED TO WAIT A YEAR TO ASK QUESTIONS, WHILE THEY FESTER ON THE ISSUE OF THEIR INTEREST.

Would you be willing to give up 17 nights of your time for free?

I DO NOW AND I AM NOT ON THE BOARD.

If the quarterly meetings were approved that would require the Board to attend but how about the unit owners? They can attend or decide to stay home but in any case the Board would have to sacrifice another night.

I WOULD AGREE, IF NO ONE SHOWS UP MORE THAN TWICE....ALL THE BOARD HAS TO DO SHUT THEM OFF, BUT I DO NOT SEE THAT HAPPENING.

If done properly a Baord members job requires additional time between meetings and effort to do the job required. Board meetings are only part of the effort needed for many Boards.

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, COMES WITH THE TERRITORY, BUT THIS BOARD DOES NOT UNDERSTAND, THEY ARE FIGURE HEADED MINDED PEOPLE.

I would suggest to you that asking your Board to now add 4 more meetings of their time is a lot to ask.

Perhaps those who really want to KNOW the goings on of the Board might consider joining the Board and then donate 13 nights of their time to the benefit of those who don't see fit to serve.

I AGREE, WITH WHAT YOU SAY, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR OPINION, BUT WHY WOULD OWNERS NEED TO BE ON THE BOARD IN ORDER TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON TO A DEGREE OF COURSE.....PERHAPS WHEN YOU ARE IN MASSACHUSETTS, STOP BY FOR A GOOD CUP OF COFFEE AND DISCUSSION. I BELIEVE YOU COULD GIVE ME A WEALTH OF INFORMATION I/WE NEED.

THANKS AGAIN,

ARTN
MindyR (North Carolina)
Posts: 47
Posted:
Hey Art! We have experienced a very similar situation in our community. We had only one meeting a year that the homeowners were invited too. We never saw mintues from any meetings, only saw a budget...never financial statements, and only heard from the board if there was a complaint, and even then it was only once or twice a year. We realized that one meeting a year was just not enough, people build up complaints and they turn to angser over a years time which year after year resulted in a very unpleasent annual meeting. We asked our board to hold quarterly meetings. This past year has been much smoother. To be honest with you out of 42 homes, only about 3 can to the meeting, one which was myself. But like I told the board, no one can complain about meetings now. We do still have communication issues.

Now, the more I am reading and asking questions on this forum. I'm learning that there are laws about open meetings. I will serve on the board as sec this coming year, and will suggest that all of our meetings be open meetings. The board is suppose to be working for the homeowners, not against. Of course on some occasions a board might need to hold an executive meeting, which should be closed door. I just feel like the more we know as homeowners the better. In our situation I feel like a little communication will go a long way.

Look up "planned community act" for your state to learn more about the laws for meetings. Its our right as homeowners who are in good financial standings to know what is going on in our community.

Just because someone volunteer's to be on a board, doesn't mean they will make a good board member. And I am confident that there almost always is someone who would be willing to step in and help.
ArtN (Massachusetts)
Posts: 48
Posted:
Hi, MindyR, thank you for your response, it is good too hear from those with similar experiences. What we did was to started with 9 owners and formed a Concerned Owners Group and have only met 3 times, but we are making strides toward our goal of starting to convince the Board of Quarterly meeting, which would open the doors for more owners to participate, once they start receiving information as to what is going on. The one thing I think will help us reach our goals is our By Laws sitpulate that Speical Owners meetings can be requested of the Board with 30% of the owners, which with our Association is 18 units, and with nine of us on the concerned owners Group, the other nine should be easy to acquire. I feel should the Board resist our Quarterly meeting request, all we need to do is request a Speical Meeting every Quarter.

Once again, thanks,

ArtN
MindyR (North Carolina)
Posts: 47
Posted:
That makes a great point. Our Bi-laws also state if 10% of homeowners request a meeting, they have to hold one, and in our small development that is only about 5 homes. I think they realized they didn't have much of a choice but to start holding open meetings. You are off to a great start with your committee. If the board complains about too many meetings, suggest they open their board meetings. Use the first or last 15 minutes or so for open discussion. This is what I going to am for.

Good Luck.

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