GenoS (Florida)
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We have an outdoor in-ground pool that was built ca. 1990. The shell is concrete/gunite. Looking back at old board meeting minutes I see that in 1997 the board estimated it would cost about $40,000 to completely replace the pool and deck, and figured the useful lifetime was 20-25 years.
So this year rolls around and the pool is 25 years old. Last year the people resurfacing the pool found a crack in the shell and the HOA authorized a $16,000 repair that utilized some sort of staples. We have no component line item in our reserves for the pool, so the board invented one at the end of last year and assigned it a year-end fund balance of -$16,000. We're scheduled to pay that off this year, which is depriving our reserves contributions for 2015 of that money that's needed elsewhere. The ex-president mentioned that someone had expressed to him last year that we should have had a special assessment for the $16k.
Do gunite pools have a useful lifetime after which the entire pool needs to be replaced? Despite the 1997 board estimating a 25 year useful life, recent research suggests that a gunite (gun-sprayed concrete) pool is a lifetime product; I've seen several people in different internet forums express that opinion. With regular resurfacing, they say, there's no reason to expect such a pool to "wear out" and need complete replacement. But ours clearly did.
Going forward I'm wondering if we need to start funding a complete pool replacement reserve account. If the staples don't hold, or another crack develops (the reason for why last year's crack developed in the first place was never addressed) is it going to be worth another stopgap $16,000 band-aid? I've also looked at half a dozen reserve studies done for other associations and none of them provide for complete replacement, they're all for resurfacing, decking, tiles, furniture, hand rails, etc.
Assuming we're able to come up with $80,000 or so for a complete replacement, should that be reserved for again in another 25 years, or should it be considered a lifetime asset?
So this year rolls around and the pool is 25 years old. Last year the people resurfacing the pool found a crack in the shell and the HOA authorized a $16,000 repair that utilized some sort of staples. We have no component line item in our reserves for the pool, so the board invented one at the end of last year and assigned it a year-end fund balance of -$16,000. We're scheduled to pay that off this year, which is depriving our reserves contributions for 2015 of that money that's needed elsewhere. The ex-president mentioned that someone had expressed to him last year that we should have had a special assessment for the $16k.
Do gunite pools have a useful lifetime after which the entire pool needs to be replaced? Despite the 1997 board estimating a 25 year useful life, recent research suggests that a gunite (gun-sprayed concrete) pool is a lifetime product; I've seen several people in different internet forums express that opinion. With regular resurfacing, they say, there's no reason to expect such a pool to "wear out" and need complete replacement. But ours clearly did.
Going forward I'm wondering if we need to start funding a complete pool replacement reserve account. If the staples don't hold, or another crack develops (the reason for why last year's crack developed in the first place was never addressed) is it going to be worth another stopgap $16,000 band-aid? I've also looked at half a dozen reserve studies done for other associations and none of them provide for complete replacement, they're all for resurfacing, decking, tiles, furniture, hand rails, etc.
Assuming we're able to come up with $80,000 or so for a complete replacement, should that be reserved for again in another 25 years, or should it be considered a lifetime asset?