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MaryT8 (Florida)
Posts: 3
Posted:
Opinions please
I live in a small community in Jacksonville.

Our community had a Mod Committee established by the Declarant with authority in the Declaration of Restrictions and with the statement that the Mod Committee had jurisdiction over modifications . The rights of the Declarant were to establish the committee and choose the members and the right to assign Declarant rights to the Association. The Declarant did establish a committee. The Declarant has since finished the community and is gone. The Declaration has not been amended and needs 60% vote for any amendment. Another section states that any assignment of rights must be in writing. There are no documents showing any assignment of rights.

Based on this does the BOD have the authority to dissolve the committee and if so how do we handle modifications?

Thanks for any advice
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
It depends.

Does the CC&Rs require a MOD committee?

If they do, the Board may not simply abolish.
However, they may remove and appoint committee members.

The fact that the development is built out and the Declarant is no longer in the picture should have automatically removed said rights.

MaryT8 (Florida)
Posts: 3
Posted:
I don't think it says we have to have a mod committee because it says "may".

Our declaration says the Declarant may establish a Modification Committee and if established has 100% control to choose the members until all lots are conveyed. The mod committee shall promulgate standards and procedures concerning its responsibility and practice. Plans, specs, location, harmony, etc...showing modifications have to be submitted to the mod committee for approval...The Declarant has the rights to assign to the Association the Declarants rights.

Since this is in our Declaration then I guess I am assuming that if it gets dissolved then in order to have modifications approved as stated above... we would have to have a committee and since the committee's definition is in our Declaration then it would have to still be as stated above.

Thanks for your input
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Mary

As you used the word "MAY" this does not mean "MUST". If the Declarant is no longer involved then the association BOD could act as the "MOD COMMITTEE". They could also do any number of things such as disband the committee, appoint a new committee, rename such a committee, etc.

The operative word is "MAY".
MaryT8 (Florida)
Posts: 3
Posted:
John

I wasn't positive that we could just disband the committee since it had been established. I'm assuming we will have to give notice for this to the members.

I'm not sure what act as the Mod Committee means. Could you clarify please.

I appreciate the information and like the website so far.

Thanks
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Mary

Typically the BOD has several appointed (by the BOD) committees to aid them. One common one is the Architectural Control or Review Committee (ACC, ARC) which must approve all home/property changes/modifications. I think this is what your Mod Committee actual is.

Typically the BOD appoints committee members and if an owner does not like a committee ruling, they can appeal such to the BOD. Often if not enough volunteers then the BOD assumes the committee role also.

There have been many legal battles over one making changes without approval of the ARC. In one recent case in my area, the owner had to remove a $35K garage they had built without ARC approval.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
Expecting that there is a requirement in your CC&Rs to have changes/modifications approved by the Association, if the committee is abolished (and per your citation, I believe the Board could do this) the Board would have to review and approve/disapprove all changes/mods.

My suggestion, there is enough work for a Board to do. Let a committee make those decisions and the Board can listen to any member who desires to appeal the committees decision.
RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 3,868
Posted:
Not being familiar with Florida, but this is the first time I have heard of a Mod committee. Could be wrong, but every CCRs I have read include an Architectural Committee, which is a standing committee, and could only be dissolved by a large majority of the membership. We moved in to an HOA primarily because of the authority this committee has, whether we like it or not. We move into an HOA because of uniformity, and not having your neighbor paint his house any color they so choose, or have a 75 ft barn in the backyard.
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
RichardP13, Florida does mention architectural control committees in its HOA law, but the references are all alike: "... neither the association nor any architectural, construction improvement, or other such similar committee of the association...".

"Mod Committee" is an odd name but I don't think it matters. Florida is pretty much hands-off when it comes to committees vs. standing committees or what have you. There aren't any restrictions on what you can have or how they should be organized and administered. In fact, it almost reads as though an architecture committee is optional.

Our Architecture Control Board is currently vacant completely except for the president who is an ex-officio member of every committee as per our bylaws. I think we've had 6 applications so far this year, all for minor things, and all approved by the full board at the regular meetings.

Your reasons for liking an HOA were our reasons exactly. I suspect that even though we have some differences here and there, we'd agree on a lot of things
RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 3,868
Posted:
Geno

My understanding of the laws as they pertain to ad hoc, such as social or finance committee, which can be created and dissolved by a Board, the Arch Committee is a standing committee and as such, can only be dissolved through the CCRs. Whether there is anyone on the committee is secondary. Can't put a gun to someone's head and say, you serve.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Our Covenants have no standing committees. The the BOD can appoint any committee they so desire to appoint and they can disband any committee they so desire to disband.

In SC, committees serve at the pleasure of the BOD.
GwenG (Florida)
Posts: 669
Posted:
Our Covenants were originally written for a campground; thus, there is no Declarant authority for architectural modifications except for minor landscaping and lot site maintenance. Now that the community is 90% mobile home, the BOD finds itself with no architectural authority. There is no amendment provision in the Covenants.

Does that stop them? >>>> No.

They have already picked a fight with a homeowner over this and got their corporate butts handed to them, spending almost $70K of owner assessment fees on an unwinnable lawsuit that they initiated. Since that recent lawsuit, BOD has picked on at least two homeowners to assert their (nonexistent) authority over--provoking lawsuits by owners who now know they will win and get their attorney fees back.

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