GenoS (Florida)
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My apologies in advance because this is really long.
Our subdivision took 9 years to build out the 100 homes. We weren’t built as a “phased” community, it just took that long to get it done what with developers going out of business and general economic conditions during those years. The developers had a 1-year warranty on the homes and when that year was up they would get “Big Termite Corp” (let’s call them BTC - you know who they are, everyone hates dealing with them) to bond the homes for a yearly fee. The developers did this because the lengthy build-out had a lot of construction materials sitting around the property for a long time, and some of that was wood and thought to pose an increased risk of termites.
Once all the homes were built and the developers were gone, the HOA kept that contract going with BTC. To this day the association pays $100 a year for each of the 100 homes to be covered under the bond. Yearly inspections are included and BTC does send someone every year to do them. The bond also covers our 4 HOA buildings. The total cost is included in our yearly budget and the owners pay for it through regular assessments.
They say there are 2 kinds of homes in Florida: those that have had termites and those that will have them in the future. There have been occasional termite problems in some of the homes here, and BTC, after much cajoling, has kept their end of the bargain and paid for the repairs and restoration under the contract. (It is said that BTC’s lawyers know more about termites than their technicians.)
Now a couple of our directors want to drop the 100 individual homes from the bond/plan/contract and let the homeowners fend for themselves. The coverage on the HOA-owned buildings would be retained. My research shows that there’s no way the homeowners will be able to get the same kind of “protection plan” for $100 a year. There will likely be a one-time fee of several hundred dollars (at least) for every home and then additional annual fees that may run as much as $200 to $300 a year.
Many owners are going to scream bloody murder about this proposed change, but our CCRs say nothing about providing a “termite protection plan” for everyone. On the other hand, the CCRs incorporate by reference the Articles of Incorporation whch say that one of the purposes of the corporation is to “…to do any other thing necessary or desirable in the interests of the safety, health, protection, comfort and convenience of property owners and residents”. So it seems the HOA is legally able to provide this service, even though it’s not explicitly called for in the CCRs.
The final thing in these directors’ plans about this issue is what bothers me most. Instead of dropping the $10,000 from the annual budget and leaving that money in the owners’ pockets to obtain their own termite plan, the directors propose setting up a “reserve account” that the $10,000 will be placed into each year for the purpose of “self-insuring” against termites in the residences. This seems wrong to me on many levels. If the CCRs don’t say that the HOA has to pay for termite protection on all the homes then they certainly don’t authorize the setting aside of that same money as an item in the reserves budget. Even if such a fund was appropriate, the reserves is absolutely not the place for it.
My preference would be that if we drop the homes from the BTC Termite Protection Plan then the residents are on their own and the $10,000 annual cost for it comes off the budget and we’re done. None of this shady “reserve” for termite self-insurance. Anyone have any thoughts about this proposed course of action? To me, it’s a really bad idea.
Our subdivision took 9 years to build out the 100 homes. We weren’t built as a “phased” community, it just took that long to get it done what with developers going out of business and general economic conditions during those years. The developers had a 1-year warranty on the homes and when that year was up they would get “Big Termite Corp” (let’s call them BTC - you know who they are, everyone hates dealing with them) to bond the homes for a yearly fee. The developers did this because the lengthy build-out had a lot of construction materials sitting around the property for a long time, and some of that was wood and thought to pose an increased risk of termites.
Once all the homes were built and the developers were gone, the HOA kept that contract going with BTC. To this day the association pays $100 a year for each of the 100 homes to be covered under the bond. Yearly inspections are included and BTC does send someone every year to do them. The bond also covers our 4 HOA buildings. The total cost is included in our yearly budget and the owners pay for it through regular assessments.
They say there are 2 kinds of homes in Florida: those that have had termites and those that will have them in the future. There have been occasional termite problems in some of the homes here, and BTC, after much cajoling, has kept their end of the bargain and paid for the repairs and restoration under the contract. (It is said that BTC’s lawyers know more about termites than their technicians.)
Now a couple of our directors want to drop the 100 individual homes from the bond/plan/contract and let the homeowners fend for themselves. The coverage on the HOA-owned buildings would be retained. My research shows that there’s no way the homeowners will be able to get the same kind of “protection plan” for $100 a year. There will likely be a one-time fee of several hundred dollars (at least) for every home and then additional annual fees that may run as much as $200 to $300 a year.
Many owners are going to scream bloody murder about this proposed change, but our CCRs say nothing about providing a “termite protection plan” for everyone. On the other hand, the CCRs incorporate by reference the Articles of Incorporation whch say that one of the purposes of the corporation is to “…to do any other thing necessary or desirable in the interests of the safety, health, protection, comfort and convenience of property owners and residents”. So it seems the HOA is legally able to provide this service, even though it’s not explicitly called for in the CCRs.
The final thing in these directors’ plans about this issue is what bothers me most. Instead of dropping the $10,000 from the annual budget and leaving that money in the owners’ pockets to obtain their own termite plan, the directors propose setting up a “reserve account” that the $10,000 will be placed into each year for the purpose of “self-insuring” against termites in the residences. This seems wrong to me on many levels. If the CCRs don’t say that the HOA has to pay for termite protection on all the homes then they certainly don’t authorize the setting aside of that same money as an item in the reserves budget. Even if such a fund was appropriate, the reserves is absolutely not the place for it.
My preference would be that if we drop the homes from the BTC Termite Protection Plan then the residents are on their own and the $10,000 annual cost for it comes off the budget and we’re done. None of this shady “reserve” for termite self-insurance. Anyone have any thoughts about this proposed course of action? To me, it’s a really bad idea.