DjB2 (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 49
Posts: 49
Posted:
Hello all. Our 33-year-old 32-unit Pennsylvania condominium development has never had any assigned parking at all, other than our four spaces for those with handicap parking permits only, placed as close to each of their front doors as possible. We have a total of 70 parking spaces on our two connected private, common area lots. We have never had assigned parking here. The fronts of 2 of our 4 rows (of 8 units each) face parking lots, that is, the parking spaces parallel the fronts of the units -- but our other 2 rows (of 8 units each) are perpendicular to the parking lots.
A couple of years ago we did put up standard tow-away signs, for those people who on occasion think it's OK to park here even if they are not a resident or guest of our development. That is unacceptable, but so far we have never had to tow anyone away, although we did come within about an hour of the deadline to tow someone a couple of months ago. As the HOA President for the last 9 years (no one else will volunteer - sound familiar?), I have read our 50 page Bylaws and CC&R's cover-to-cover (many times). Unfortunately there is absolutely nothing in them anywhere about parking, assigned or otherwise - except for restrictions against commercial or recreational vehicles.
Our documents do state that the HOA has authority over our Common Areas including our parking lots, and one of our residents, an owner, is pushing to have assigned parking (the HOA is not). I told him that at the very least the BOD would require a majority vote amongst themselves prior to implementation, and that we might require a majority vote of all 32 owners for approval prior to implementation.
I believe that any number of owners will be unhappy with the assignments, due to the way our 32 units are laid out relative to our two parking lots, and due to some owners having more than one vehicle.
We are considering just one assigned space per unit, and leave the other 40 or so spaces unmarked for any additional owner vehicles, as well as for guests. After implementation, enforcement will be as simple as first confronting the vehicle owner and asking them to move, if possible, and if they refuse (why would they?), or if the vehicle does not belong to any resident/owner, then just call the tow company and have them tow it.
We would certainly NEVER implement this plan, without first informing all of the owners of it well in advance of its beginning, even if the plan required no owner vote.
So my questions are, (1) does Pennsylvania require a majority vote of all owners for approval (I could find nothing in the Pennsylvania Uniform Condominium Act about this subject), and (2) if we've all been getting along just fine without assigned parking for decades, should we just poo-poo away the owner pushing for this (or otherwise tell him that the BOD voted against it, if that is all that is required), and (3) do you think that this would be more trouble than it's worth, or would it ultimately be beneficial for all owners and residents?
On a side note, two of our units just rented to a whole bunch of foreigners who own 7 or 8 cars that we know of. Included in their welcome package from the HOA when they moved in, they were informed that neighborly protocol here is to park just one of their vehicles curbside in front of each of their units, and park the rest of them in any of the available spaces on the other side of the lots away from the front of the rows of units. So far they are in complete compliance.
In advance, thank you for reading this long one, and for any advice or recommendations you might have. I don't know how I stumbled across HOATalk - but I sure am glad I did, as all of you are an excellent resource, and I appreciate all of the information you provide greatly!
A couple of years ago we did put up standard tow-away signs, for those people who on occasion think it's OK to park here even if they are not a resident or guest of our development. That is unacceptable, but so far we have never had to tow anyone away, although we did come within about an hour of the deadline to tow someone a couple of months ago. As the HOA President for the last 9 years (no one else will volunteer - sound familiar?), I have read our 50 page Bylaws and CC&R's cover-to-cover (many times). Unfortunately there is absolutely nothing in them anywhere about parking, assigned or otherwise - except for restrictions against commercial or recreational vehicles.
Our documents do state that the HOA has authority over our Common Areas including our parking lots, and one of our residents, an owner, is pushing to have assigned parking (the HOA is not). I told him that at the very least the BOD would require a majority vote amongst themselves prior to implementation, and that we might require a majority vote of all 32 owners for approval prior to implementation.
I believe that any number of owners will be unhappy with the assignments, due to the way our 32 units are laid out relative to our two parking lots, and due to some owners having more than one vehicle.
We are considering just one assigned space per unit, and leave the other 40 or so spaces unmarked for any additional owner vehicles, as well as for guests. After implementation, enforcement will be as simple as first confronting the vehicle owner and asking them to move, if possible, and if they refuse (why would they?), or if the vehicle does not belong to any resident/owner, then just call the tow company and have them tow it.
We would certainly NEVER implement this plan, without first informing all of the owners of it well in advance of its beginning, even if the plan required no owner vote.
So my questions are, (1) does Pennsylvania require a majority vote of all owners for approval (I could find nothing in the Pennsylvania Uniform Condominium Act about this subject), and (2) if we've all been getting along just fine without assigned parking for decades, should we just poo-poo away the owner pushing for this (or otherwise tell him that the BOD voted against it, if that is all that is required), and (3) do you think that this would be more trouble than it's worth, or would it ultimately be beneficial for all owners and residents?
On a side note, two of our units just rented to a whole bunch of foreigners who own 7 or 8 cars that we know of. Included in their welcome package from the HOA when they moved in, they were informed that neighborly protocol here is to park just one of their vehicles curbside in front of each of their units, and park the rest of them in any of the available spaces on the other side of the lots away from the front of the rows of units. So far they are in complete compliance.
In advance, thank you for reading this long one, and for any advice or recommendations you might have. I don't know how I stumbled across HOATalk - but I sure am glad I did, as all of you are an excellent resource, and I appreciate all of the information you provide greatly!