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GreggK2 (Kansas)
Posts: 86
Posted:
Last month, we discovered that about 24 of the home owners out here had not paid their 2015 dues. This was mostly because the management company the HOA once employed was not doing their job. We sent letters to those 24 and gave them until tonight to come current. Since I began using QuickBooks do to are accounting, we activated the feature to accept credit cards. When someone wants to pay by credit card, we email them an invoice that has a link for them to pay online. We also include a $7.05 credit card processing fee so we do not lose a dime when they pay. Again, with tonight being the deadline, I emailed out 8 people a reminder that the deadline is midnight tonight. In less than an hour, 5 paid by credit card. It's a very cool feature to have and I recommend it.

Gregg
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Nice to know.

Keep in mind, in some States you can not charge a processing fee for using Credit Cards.
You can charge a convenience fee (yes, I know semantics).

Therefore, one should check the applicable laws regarding credit cards and be sure to use the correct terminology.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Gregg,

Congratulations on the collection effort. I am a firm believer that the easier it is to pay the more likely you are to get paid. On-line payments with credit cards is the way many of us pay our bills.

In 2010 I opened a new checking account and was issued a starter checkbook with ten checks to use until I ordered personalized checks. Five years later I still have two of the starter checks and have never ordered any other checks. I pay by debit card whenever I can and use the bank's bill pay service for those Neanderthals who insist on a paper check.

There have been some discussions in the past on this forum about whether the HOA should eat the processing charges just like any other merchant. I lean toward it being a legitimate business expense but I also urge shopping around for better rates. $7.05 per transaction is a bit pricey. The hidden issue is that there is an enormous cost in handling checks, preparing deposit slips, driving to the bank, and waiting in line for the teller, but that cost is usually borne by the poor schmuck who volunteered to be treasurer or it just gets rolled into the management company's fees. If you computed the actual costs of processing each check you would find that it is about the same as taking credit cards.

GreggK2 (Kansas)
Posts: 86
Posted:
I believe I may have heard one of my neighbors, who works with online banking, refer to it as a convenience fee so I will probably change it to that.

The $7.05 is the exact amount Intuit charges us for a $200.00 payment, which is home much the invoices are for. So we bill the home owner $207.05 knowing that $207.05 will be deposited to our account and then $7.05 subtracted for the processing. It makes the bookkeeping much simpler.

Gregg
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
I am not a fan of collecting dues on Credit cards... If the system works so well... Why don't apartment complexes accept these type payments? It's usually check or cash with receipt for late rent...

Not to through a wrench into the works but... Credit cards are part of a bankruptcy filings. Not so sure if I want someone to put charges on their credit cards, when if/when they file bankruptcy deals will be worked out. I find people who tend to use credit cards to pay such bills like HOA dues, are not necessarily financially stable. They may even try to stop payment. What then can the HOA do?

I consider HOA dues on the same level as Utility payments. You don't pay your electric bill on credit cards do you? Most utility companies I don't believe accept those payments. That is because credit cards have their own set of rules and ramifications versus cash... I'd rather have the cash than payments based on credit...

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RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 3,868
Posted:
My management company utilizes a lockbox system with the association's banking partner. The homeowner has the option to pay by check using the monthly statement provided, ACH (automatic deduction from specified account), or bill pay with their financial institution. The banking partner has a web portal that allow the homeowner to sign into their account and pay through bill pay (no charge) or with a credit card ($15.00 convenience fee charged by the bank).

The credit card is just an option to ensure that payment reaches the association by the delinquent date of the 15th (or end of grace period) of the month. All of our dues are on a monthly basis. Many more homeowners are utilizing ACH, set it up and forget it.

The lockbox system is wonderful. 99% of the transactions flow directly into the association bank account and all transactions are uploaded into the management company's software. Payments are always applied first to assessments, keeping with California rules, but the software is already programmed for such.

Most, if not all utility companies in California allow for the use of credit cards for payments, even for association. My own association can just use their credit card to pay their $80k water/sewer bill.
RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 3,868
Posted:
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 07/25/2015 8:07 AM
I am not a fan of collecting dues on Credit cards... If the system works so well... Why don't apartment complexes accept these type payments? It's usually check or cash with receipt for late rent...

Not to through a wrench into the works but... Credit cards are part of a bankruptcy filings. Not so sure if I want someone to put charges on their credit cards, when if/when they file bankruptcy deals will be worked out. I find people who tend to use credit cards to pay such bills like HOA dues, are not necessarily financially stable. They may even try to stop payment. What then can the HOA do?

I consider HOA dues on the same level as Utility payments. You don't pay your electric bill on credit cards do you? Most utility companies I don't believe accept those payments. That is because credit cards have their own set of rules and ramifications versus cash... I'd rather have the cash than payments based on credit...

As long as they pay, who cares. If it goes to bankruptcy, the association has already been paid, DUH.
GreggK2 (Kansas)
Posts: 86
Posted:
"As long as they pay, who cares. If it goes to bankruptcy, the association has already been paid, DUH."

Exactly You beat me to the punch. Once we are paid, they can file bankruptcy all they want. It is the credit card company that gets burned, not us. Also, every utility company out here accepts credit cards. Hell, my mortgage company does too. I bill everything to a credit card because I get cash back.

For those who might be against accepting them, we collected 6 home owners past dues in the past 15 hours without having to mail a thing. And for those who are trying to pay by the lien deadline of Monday, this gives them a chance to do it. Mailing a check at this point wouldn't arrive until Wednesday at the earliest.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Our MC uses a lock box system which accepts all forms of payments, transfers, etc. They also issue a quarterly payment book. Make it easy to pay and more will pay. It is that simple.

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