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ToddG4 (Missouri)
Posts: 20
Posted:
I would like to revamp my HOA/BOD policies. Here are the list of suggestions I have so far.

1) Change the neighbors approval policy to informing the neighbor of a proposed change. The burden of proof should be on the neighbor objecting to the request. The neighbor objecting to the request should have to reply to the BOD in writing within a specified timeframe. Also, the objections should
have merit and not be frivolous.
2) A resident should not be denied a request based on an undisclosed objection. The BOD has to disclose the objections to the resident requesting the
change. If the objections have merit then all parties should be given the opportunity to discuss the objections.
3) Create an appeals process.
4) Incorporate using a architectural board.
5) If the BOD wants to adopt a policy then the residents have to vote to approve it. Also, the BOD has to inform the residents of this new policy and current policies. Old and new policies need to be documented.
6) Make sure the BOD and the residents actions are consistent, transparent and they are accountable for their actions.

I look forward to the HOATalk community input. I am especially interested in hearing about appeal process' of other HOAs. My HOA does not have an appeal process.

Thanks in advance for your help and input!

RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 3,868
Posted:
Todd

Before we start, are you on the BOD?

As you may or may not know, these items you would like to see implemented, fall under the powers of the BOD.
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
Todd, a lot of what's on your list is already required by most HOA governing documents and individual state laws. Start with your HOA's governing documents and you may find they already call for those things (except for #1). You might be in a situation where everything else should be happening, but is not due to an inactive or apathetic board.
JonD1
Posts: 2,350
Posted:
Todd

Just what is your role in this situation? Is this list of changes something you plan to present for the board to consider? Do you serve on the board?
If so in what role? Director, Officer?

It would seem to me with all the issues before an average board your interest in this topic stems from some personal situation due to which you now feel the need to change the process.

Under normal circumstances it is not one single property owner that then decides on any process of course of action to be followed or implemented by the board.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
This is the same Todd that is not being allowed to widen part of his driveway due to adjoining neighbors have the right of refusal and they do not have to say why. I believe the BOD is following its established rules and Todd does not like that. The answer is to get the rule(s) changed.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
I think most of your ideas are good ones, Todd, and our board here would certainly review them IF they comply with your existing governing documents and MO state laws.

Our board, though, gives the power to make architectural guidelines to the board and votes by the membership are not required. But we're a condo high rise so have different issues than detached homes.

Our CC^Rs require an architectural committee of 3 + one alternate. I think it's a good idea for HOAs to have such a committee rather than all of that power resting with a board.

Our ARC may approve or not chard. change requests. In our HOA, owners may appeal once to the boar if their requests are not approved.

We do have mandetory notice to neighbors of noisy work, but they don't get to critics projects. Again, our status as a condo makes this different than yours.

Your #5 is required by CA re: changing or giving owners arch. guidelines. In fact these only can be changed at board meetings that open to homeowners and the changes would be recorded in the minutes of that meeting.

It doesn't matter to me if your ideas are based on your personal experience. Many people's ideas about any number of things are based on personal experience.

Please remind me of the exact wording of your HOA's neighbor approval policy and in what governing document it's found.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Todd,

This is what we have (and you might have a better chance at getting these changes):

1) Architectural changes: Anything other then windows, doors and minor landscape changes (trees are major changes) requires signatures from neighbors. The neighbor isn't approving or disapproving, simply stating that they are now aware of the issue (typically if there is an objection, the member finds out then).

The Architectural Committee (a committee of three appointed by the Board) reviews applications and approves/disapproves based on governing documents.

A member has the right to appeal any denial to the Board.

2) Policy Adoption: Policy Resolutions or amendments to policy resolutions follow this process:

a) proposed resolution is given to the Board who has 10 days or more to review
b) Board makes changes and agrees to bring to membership for review
c) Proposed draft is published to the membership who has 10-60 days to review
d) Meeting of members is called (or combined with annual meeting) for the membership to provide feedback to the draft resolution.
e) Board makes changes based on feedback.
f) Board votes on propsed resolution
g) Adopted resolution is published to membership (hard copy sent to each member)

3) Membership has ability to repeal or amend any resolution This is done by State statute. See VA ยง 55-513 which states:

A majority of votes cast, in person or by proxy, at a meeting convened in accordance with the provisions of the association's bylaws and called for that purpose shall repeal or amend any rule or regulation adopted by the board of directors.

Note: This is interpreted as the members must call for the meeting to repeal the resolution. The Board is not required to hold the resolution to a membership vote unless the members call for a membership meeting for that purpose.
ToddG4 (Missouri)
Posts: 20
Posted:
I am not on the board but plan on having a vote at the annual meeting to implement these items. I may even run to get on the BOD. My current BOD is not good at all.
ToddG4 (Missouri)
Posts: 20
Posted:
Thanks for replying. That is why I am asking. The current BOD is not good.
ToddG4 (Missouri)
Posts: 20
Posted:
Thanks Tim. This is what I am looking for. I want to present my ideas to the membership and have them vote on it. My current BOD is not good. They have adopted a unpublished policy of requiring your neighbors approval for any changes that are in an easement. Even though the utility company and city have control of the easement.
ToddG4 (Missouri)
Posts: 20
Posted:
Thanks for replying. Unfortunately the BOD policy of getting the neighbors approval is not in the covenants. It is just an undocumented policy that the BOD has adopted.
ToddG4 (Missouri)
Posts: 20
Posted:
Thanks for replying. Unfortunately the BOD policy of getting the neighbors approval is not in the covenants. It is just an undocumented policy that the BOD has adopted.
ToddG4 (Missouri)
Posts: 20
Posted:
Yes it is the same Todd and no it is not an established rule. It is an undocumented policy that the BOD has adopted. I am trying to work within the process to change a very illogical policy. I do not believe anyone would want to have to get a neighbors approval for a change they want to make.

The BOD or an Architectural board should be the only ones who approve or reject requested changes.

From the HOATalk replies I have gotten it seems normal practice that a neighbor should be informed. My current HOA does not have that policy of notifying the neighbor. It is kind of ironic they skipped right over notifying the neighbor to having to get their approval. It is just not a sound policy.

The BOD made this policy out of thin air so they did not have to deal with a resident wanting to make a change on their property when it is in an easement. A BOD member stated this to me.
ToddG4 (Missouri)
Posts: 20
Posted:
Yes it is the same Todd and no it is not an established rule. It is an undocumented policy that the BOD has adopted. I am trying to work within the process to change a very illogical policy. I do not believe anyone would want to have to get a neighbors approval for a change they want to make.

The BOD or an Architectural board should be the only ones who approve or reject requested changes.

From the HOATalk replies I have gotten it seems normal practice that a neighbor should be informed. My current HOA does not have that policy of notifying the neighbor. It is kind of ironic they skipped right over notifying the neighbor to having to get their approval. It is just not a sound policy.

The BOD made this policy out of thin air so they did not have to deal with a resident wanting to make a change on their property when it is in an easement. A BOD member stated this to me.

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