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BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
Posted:
One of the posters on here reminds me of our CCO. Our CCO honestly believes her complaints are to "help the community" There is no explaining anything to her once she has her mind made up.

Our entryway door was not closing completely and therefore not locking. Anyone could have come in. Our PM fixed this door. While sitting in the entryway talking to our CCO she made statement that the door was not broken and did not need to be fixed.

I just said I respectfully disagree with her and walked away.

Maybe that is what we need to do with Walt.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
Bonnie,

Sometimes it's the CCO that makes the Board/Association aware of issues that they might not have been aware of before.

Granted, being on the receiving end of a constant complainer tends to have one quit listening or only half listen. That doesn't mean that the CCO may have a point. It simply means that the CCO isn't presenting the issue the best way it could be presented.

I encourage people to listen to their CCOs. Doesn't mean that you need to act on everything that they bring up, but listening may help.

BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
Posted:
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Posted By TimB4 on 06/25/2015 6:57 PM
Bonnie,

Sometimes it's the CCO that makes the Board/Association aware of issues that they might not have been aware of before.

Granted, being on the receiving end of a constant complainer tends to have one quit listening or only half listen. That doesn't mean that the CCO may have a point. It simply means that the CCO isn't presenting the issue the best way it could be presented.

I encourage people to listen to their CCOs. Doesn't mean that you need to act on everything that they bring up, but listening may help.


I agree with you 100%. At least once I have stood up to the Board and agreed with our CCO. However when the CCO is not correct (such as saying the entry door was never broken) I believe the best thing for me personally to do is just to walk away.

There have been other times the CCO has been correct. However, she appears to not know how to make her point known without attacking people and more often than not she is incorrect.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
I had people I would say would complain the sun came up... We ain't never did nothing and we fix'n to do nothing... (It's a "southern thang").

I developed a policy for my HOA to address members and their "ideas/suggestions". If they wanted something, they had to go to the meeting and present it to ALL the members. If they could not attend the meeting, then we read their letter out loud to everyone. If they choose to submit a letter or even attend, the membership vote and terms had be accepted by them. They got to see the decision making and what was involved right in front of them. Leaving no doubt nothing was done "behind doors". Plus the vote was taken and written in the meeting notes. Something they could review.

The other policy I put in place is that ANY idea/suggestion had to come with a solution. If you did not provide a solution no matter what it was, then we would not discuss it. I considered it "incomplete" request. Otherwise, you have to agree that the board would come up with the solution for you. It may not be what you wanted or liked.

We also accepted bids from contractors if they thought someone could "do it better". The caveat had to be it had to be a complete bid with costs and proof of insurance/license. Plus they had to know that their bid would be put up against 2 other bids as we only considered 3 top bids.

I found if you make things open and don't make "Knee-jerk" reactions CCO's usually become model members. Never respond immediately. Take time to quote your documents and put it in writing. Off the cuff remarks or decisions can put you under. Threats to sue is just noise."If you want to sue, go ahead, we will wait on the paperwork. Enjoy suing yourself..." is the usual response instead of running to a lawyer to "protect" the HOA. You put the ball in my court I am going to run with it... Your the one who needs to learn to play with the ball better...

Former HOA President
BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
Posted:
Melissa,
We do have open Board Meetings with the exception of the few times we need a closed meeting such as talking with our lawyer or addressing individual members.

I like your idea of asking the complainer for their solution. But I honestly don't think that would work with our CCO. She did not understand the financial report prepared by our accountant. Both the treasurer and I did our best to explain it to her. I made the statement that maybe she should do the report. Her response was, "I could do a better job". Since she could not understand the financial statement even after we tried to explain it to her, I have not doubt that her ability as an accountant is extremely lacking.

As for the door that she said did not need to be repaired, I assume her solution would have been to do nothing.

Nevertheless, next time she complains to me about anything, I may ask her what her solution to the problem would be. She has had some serious health problems lately and is not out and about as much as she used to be.

I hesitated about agreeing to be on the board because I knew how this lady attacks people. Another lady who was a Board member for a short time (her mother died and she was having some difficulty with grief and settling things) told me she also hesitated about agreeing to be on the Board because of the way our CCO attacks Board members.

I am so glad we have a new member who unlike our CCO actually helps the Board. She does suggest solutions and is eager and willing to help.

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