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TaraR (Arizona)
Posts: 24
Posted:
Hello. Yesterday evening, we had a huge success in our community… we made quorum in our special meeting! So, our association has gone to an entire board resigned two months ago, to now an active board. And yes, I’m on the board. The new team members are planning our first board meeting here soon. We do not have much money in the budget, so we were trying to think of a local place where we could hold a meeting at no cost.

The town’s community center and library charges for the boardrooms for residents to use. Does anyone have other suggestions on where I can look to see where we can have a meeting without taking money from our association?

MD (California)
Posts: 27
Posted:
You might see if a local church has a community room available for use. Perhaps a board member would be willing to open up his/her home for a meeting. The property management company may have a room available for use without charge. If your community has a pool area, that is an option for warm weather months. You might also check to see if the community center or library offer discounts or free room use for nonprofit organizations. In California, HOAs are nonprofit mutual benefit corporations so the HOA would qualify. Finally, a homeowner may have a membership at a club with a social room or meeting room that could be used. Good luck and congratulations on your board appointment!
GloriaM (North Carolina)
Posts: 829
Posted:
Tara:

If you have a MC, sometimes they have a conference room and allow HOA's to use. My company allows boards to use our conference room free of charge.

Another suggestion would be your local fire department. Most times they too allow the use of their rooms free of charge. Good luck.
ArtN (Massachusetts)
Posts: 48
Posted:
In our comminity, Public Libraries allow meeting to be here at their libraries, as a community service.

I give you all credit in taking over after a bad situation.
Jadedone4 (Virginia)
Posts: 495
Posted:
If you have a public school that is local and convenient to your community - you might want to try them. Our locals charge the community $10 plus the costs of any clean-up for use of one of their rooms.

... side note, if you go this route, I would suggest that you make sure all of your library fees are paid in full, and you have no outstanding/late books to return - those gosh darn Libarian pack a serious punch... and also, as we are all older adults here.. the chairs with the desk arms are not always comfortable - mostly it is hard to hear the comments made during the meetings because of all of the "cracking" from arthritic members and the chairs - SMILE !!!

Good luck and you deserve a big Thank You for stepping up on behalf of your communit, by getting involved....
AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
Posted:
We prefer to have our meetings on-site, rather than at a distant location. People tend not to attend meetings if they have to drive to the local library, firehouse, etc. The same holds true for someone "opening their home" for the meeting. We tried, that too. People felt it made the meeting feel too "private" and were intruding on someone's personal space. Initially a lot of people are very gung-ho about attending meetings, yet over time the numbers will dwindle....we often have meetings where only the board members and the P.M. are present. So we have our meetings on our property. We have a small room (used to be a laundry room) that we've set up with a six-foot table and several chairs. It works fine. During the summer we have our meetings pool-side. We've even used the wide, open, covered breezeway where our mailboxes are located. Make use of your common areas. It sounds casual yet we keep the meetings professional and the owners here enjoy "seeing" the board meet,right at their home. Good Luck!!!
BradP (Kansas)
Posts: 2,640
Posted:
We hold ours at a member's home. When we looked at offsite locations our city hall said we could use the council chambers free of charge.
NormanG (Arizona)
Posts: 38
Posted:
I could not agree more than what ANNA D said. Getting people to attend meetings is a problem particularly when a quorum is desired. Most Condo areas has an office of some type and a pool area so that is the best place to hold meetings... One of the major ideas of the Board is to save money anyway and having a meeting(the meetings) on site is more desireable to get the attendance AND to save money at the same time.
DwightT (Idaho)
Posts: 664
Posted:
We have our annual HOA meetings in the lunchroom of the school next to our neighborhood. They do charge a cleaning fee, but it isn't too bad for once a year. Most people can walk to the meeting. We still have a hard time getting a quorum.

For the monthly Board meeting, we started out using a Board member's home, but for the same reasons already mentioned felt that would be a deterrent for some people. We don't really have a good place on-site to hold meetings. I found a local coffee shop that has a small meeting room that we can use for no charge. We just have to reserve it a month in advance.

You might also check with some local pizza joints. Some of them will let you use a back room if you buy a pizza or sometimes just a pitcher of soda. It may make the Board meeting less formal, but it might also encourage more people to attend.
JM2 (Oregon)
Posts: 439
Posted:
Hi Tara:

WAY TO GO!!! Good luck!

Do any of your homeowners have a hot tub they could loan for a board meeting?

JPM
KevinK5 (California)
Posts: 64
Posted:
We used to have HOA meetings at a local church and they accepted whatever donations we felt it was worth. We would just pass the hat at each meeting. Try your local church, maybe the one that many of your residents attend.
Another non-profit group I was part of used a free community room at the local shopping mall. Maybe you have one too?
BrendaW (Florida)
Posts: 3
Posted:
Help me. What is a quorum?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
A quorum is defined in your documents. It differs from each HOA. For the most part it is a majority of either board members or general members. Your documents may require that 5 of 8 board members must be present for a vote to take place and be official. However, there may be times where 51 -75% of the general membership must be present for a vote. The official number varies.
The number attending a meeting to make it official may be a combo of both in some documents. You may look under "attendance" for a possible area for finding your quorom number.
I will warn you, it may be nearly impossible to get a quorom. There may be ways to work around this if it is okay with the majority. Sometimes business still has to get done.

Former HOA President
BradD2 (Florida)
Posts: 418
Posted:
It isn't always a majority. Also note that a quorum may be different for a members meeting than for a board meeting. Ours for example is 10% of the membership for Member meetings and a majority of board members at a Board Meeting. I would check your By-Laws.
NormanG (Arizona)
Posts: 38
Posted:
Melissa:
How/what are the ways to get around the quorum business???
NormanG (Arizona)
Posts: 38
Posted:
Melissa:
How/what are the ways to get around the quorum business???
BradD2 (Florida)
Posts: 418
Posted:
Have people show up or appear with proxies.
NormanG (Arizona)
Posts: 38
Posted:
I can see a POSSIBLE problem with Proxies... many people will just use proxies rather than attending meeetings... The main or should be importanace for a Board is to hear input and if proxies are used, it would defeat the purpose but.. such is life
MikeS1
Posts: 668
Posted:
There is a huge potention for fraud with Proxies and if the current trend continues, they will be illegal to use in more and more states.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
The "intent" of the quorom is to make sure that the majority general membership or board opinions are heard. It's a "stop gap" so that power hungry stealthy boards are doing what they are supposed to do. That is represent the overall opinions/directions of the members.

Honestly, what I did to get around this issue since 95% of the time, there would be no "quorom" present at any given meeting, was to solicit opinions. I basically would go around to the members outside and even in the meetings and present an idea to them. Whatever majority opinion was given, I would then present it at the meeting for a vote. If there was no quorom at the meeting, I would ask the people who were in attendance if they would agree to this idea and support it. I let them know that it was an idea that was discussed amongst other members not in attendance. Believe me, many of my ideas did get shot down despite being the president. I presented many ideas that weren't my own to shop around opinions on.

Many here may not agree to my "methods" but it got the job done. I had no choice. Ironically, it was because of my methods of free sharing of ideas, that no one attended my meetings. They felt they had already discussed the issue with me and had no need to attend meetings. Many times I would be the ONLY one at a meeting because I had discussed any issues amongst the owners prior.

If your HOA wants to run "properly" and by the rules strictly, it may cheat itself out of some decision making. Clogging up the wheels of progression. I am not saying that a quorom shouldn't be abided by. I would suggest that listening to the neighbors/members throughout and between meetings may allow the HOA to move forward. A HOA is in existance to make sure the homeowner's live by the rules they want and generate.

Former HOA President
RobertG (Arizona)
Posts: 505
Posted:
In my humble opinion -

Melisa, your approach scares me to death. I assume you are talking about a board meeting quorum and not an annual meeting quorum.

Just wait until you decide to enter into a contract with a vendor, and everything goes bad. The HOA did not make a legal contract and I wonder who will be holding the bag when it comes time to be sued.

You are working with a legal corporation (unless this is not a real HOA). If you can't get quorum, don't do anything. If nothing gets done, then maybe somebody will recognize it is time to get serious and attend meetings.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
We used only licensed and insured vendors for any work that needed done. Other members could suggest a vendor/contractor but they had provide us proof of insurance and a license. That protected not only us but the contractors as well. You also don't know your dealing with a bad contractor until they do a bad job. Calling the BBB is good only if they have a complaint on record at the time of inquiry.
We have monthly meetings and elections once a year. It's still impossible to get a quorom together. If you run the HOA like I did, the members weren't interested in showing up because I talked to them all the time. Business still had to be conducted. Someone had to do it. If I ever did it wrong, I would get called out for it. For the most part, the members trusted me to get the work done. They knew I would act in their best interest. It was my property too.

Former HOA President
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
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Posted By RobertG on 06/04/2007 5:24 PM
In my humble opinion -
Melisa, your approach scares me to death.

Me too, Melissa. Always have official business conducted and recorded at Board meetings. Conducting business without official saction is wrongdoing and may not be covered by insurance if sued.

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