claim of peeping tom

Jim,

I have serious doubts that your governing documents address the issue of peeping toms. The person who is being peeped upon should be directed to call the police, not the association.

Unless your HOA has the power to arrest someone, I suggest leaving it to the police.

Shoot one of those board members and see if you get arrested.

Jim,

As others have said, it's a police matter - not an association matter.

Being private property, the police won't enter unless invited or following a suspect. A complaint by a resident would be an invitation for the police to enter.

I live in a private development. In order to have the police enforce vehicle laws on private property, the Association has placed on file with the police department a letter authorizing them to enter the property to enforce those laws. The format of the letter came from the police department. If your Board is concerned that police won't respond if called, contact them and see what permissions the Board has to grant.

Whomever thought the police would have no jurisdiction in such matters because your a condo, should not be on the board of said condo. That's if it was a board member. And as a board, I would take this "concern" with a grain of salt because the police were not called.

This is a police matter and a photo opportunity... Just sayin... We had a guy walk around his house butt naked. He was a real perv. I know first hand cause he tried to feel me up and he exposed himself at the pool... Nothing I could do as President... However, as a "woman" I spread the word about him. Especially to my most trustworthy male neighbors. I asked that they never let a woman alone with him. If they had to leave, then to inform the woman of this man's history. We had it on the "down-lo" to avoid him. The police did have a report on the pool exposure but they never claimed to have "found him" to process the report.

and bring the person who was violated as well. And if the police don't jump fast enough to assist in anyway, don't hold it against them. They are busy and unless a complaint is filed, your situation will not get the full attention it deserved.

I think you refer this woman to the police to file a report. Let them sort it out. This is not a HOA matter. No the HOA can not force someone to move other than foreclosure. That is only for unpaid dues. These people moved because they choose to.

Jim

I think you all are getting involved with something you should not be involved with. It is not an HOA issue and you should not even be discussing it, never mind having mediations/discovery meetings.

I think by now most in your association know the gal is a bit off her rocker.

Tell the old gal to call the police then ignore her.

Ironically, my "naked man" issue happened to be next door neighbors to a elderly neighbor/board member. She started to have memory and health issues. A few of us neighbors started taking care of her off and on till her family stepped in. Well she grew up on the age of "segregation". Down here in the south that doesn't mean "Racist". It was just the way she and many other elderly were raised back in the day. Now a days that view isn't the one we take.

Anyways, the "naked man" happened to be of color. She could not see his naked antics because there were no windows on her side the house or his. So one day after the exposure at the pool and other incidents, I told her about them sensitively. Well before I could tell her who the suspect was she goes "I really like that black man that lives next door. He is really nice and helped me." I could not tell her as she's wasn't one to speak highly of one of color. So I just let it go and he later moved out. He wasn't going to hurt her. I later told him after he moved out about what he had been suspected of.

So you just have to basically LISTEN to them complain. I found most of the time you just LISTEN it makes them feel better. Explain to them the process. Repeat it several times if necessary. Tell them they have to put it in writing. That letter will be read at the meeting. Make sure the process for these type of situation will go to the police to investigate. Have patience. Put in a write issue down and read it outloud policy in place may deter people from submitting crazy complaints...

Just speaking for myself here, but i was real proud of the way our Association (especially our President) handled this issue. In my humble opinion, some benefits we gained were...

- our response was in line with our aspirational (uh, community building) focus. In addition to our administrative structure operation (for violations, financial planning, administration and such) - we attempt to build community within our neighborhood to the extent possible...when the opportunity is there.

- by virtue of how this incident was handled, we now have additional information about how we can best respond to neighbor complaints of this sort. We are now much more aware of how to handle neighbor distrubances within individual homes, when requests comes.

- And, we now have a better ability to discriminate between need for police action and the internal affairs of our neighborhood. Listening and patience sometimes works well!

Thanks to everybody for your opinions on this. Excellent!

oljim, in texas