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HarveyR4 (California)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Anticipating potential HOA issues can be helpful for volunteers serving on boards and property managers. This can be as simple as compiling a list of possible issues and problems. What if this or that happens? What will we do? Mapping out the 'What will we do?'...figuring out strategies for addressing problems and for communicating information about them can help mitigate problems, or -- even better -- perhaps avoid them all together.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
No offense BUT honestly you can throw that list out the window when you join your HOA or HOA board... Anticipating issues in a HOA is exactly what gets many of them in trouble. Best example: Running to a lawyer because someone may sue. Let them run to a lawyer and wait on the paperwork. Don't waste the time and effort preventing a lawsuit. If your doing things right, then why worry? If you have doubts your are, then you are validating they have a case. Have a good defense an counter sue. Your going to be sued or atleast threatened to be. Don't anticipate... activate!

If you run a HOA, you find it's a day by day thing. There is no one size fits all. You pull up your thread bearing bootstraps and back into the fire... What you can anticipate? That people will always ASSUME... We all know what ASSUME means... There is an @ss before you and me...


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KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:
Hi Harvey,

Create that list as HOA issues arise and don't guess. Soon enough, you'll have a list full of quality issues and projects to acheive. Then, take your time to address each one as your board will not have the ability to move mountains overnight.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
I think the answer is in the middle - no, you'll never be able to predict every little problem (if you could, most volunteers would run away screaming, never to return!) However, if boards work with their property manager and attorney (and association insurance carrier) to establish sound policies and procedures, that can go a long way in preventing problems, or at least have a systematic way of addressing them instead of reinventing the wheel every time.

Continuous training of the Board is always a good idea. When I served on my Board, one area that really irked me was that the majority didn't seem in attending seminars or even reading magazine articles on holding effective meetings, how to read the financial report, etc. Maybe they thought it wasn't necessary because we have a very good property manager, but even if you don't have to worry about the day to day stuff, you still need some knowledge on the bigger pictures so you can ask intelligent questions before making a decision.

Whatever else some of you think about CAI and its politics and/or who they really represent, they do have some great booklets and seminars on HOA budgeting, accounting, enforcing the rules, etc., and it seems to me if you're going to be on a HOA board, you need to be willing and able to take a little time to get some education on how to do it right. If there's no local chapter that sponsors seminars, ask your property manager if he/she can put together something. Or add some sort of board member education moment to the agenda once a quarter and bring in a local expert on issues like lawn care. OR designate someone to look at the HOA reference library on this website to select articles that the board should be educated on - that person can summarize the information and copies could be made available to the board to read at their leisure.

Finally, I think everyone should remember that HOA communities, like everything else in society, are constantly evolving. Something that worked for the last 5 years may need to be tweaked or revamped altogether, depending on changes in the law, what the homeowners want, their demographics and so on. I think the mindset of "we've always done it this way, so why change?" gets lots of communities in trouble because no one ever stopped to consider that perhaps there was a way to do it more efficiently - or they've done it incorrectly all along and now the stuff is hitting the fan.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JeffT2 (Iowa)
Posts: 880
Posted:
Have a written collection policy.

Have procedures for bookkeeping and monitoring the finances.

Know your documents and follow them: budgets and everything else.

Keep maintenance records and procedures.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
We're in a high rise, so our Board needs to be prepared for water leaks/floods. What does each staffer do? Who do they call? So we have a protocol for that type of issues, for power outage in our elevator building, and for fire emergency.

Detached homes would create a different set of protocols and some are, in fact, predictable. Another thing you know for sure, Harvey, is that all of the components that your HOA sons will wear out some day. Getting an up-to-date reserve study will h ell you prepare for various components reaching the ends of their lives.

An annual calendar also is good to note the dates that various inspections are due, taxes, ect.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
Harvy,

As others have said, anticipating problems is generally not worth the effort. This is because there are always going to be specific details that make an issue unique. Personally, I'd be more concerned about the loss of corporate knowledge if the whole board is replaced at one time.

However, what is worth the effort is to have specific policies in place for the common items (perhaps this is what you were referring to).

I've attached a list that has been provided on this forum before (that's where I got it).
It's titled "Policies Every Board Needs before They Are Needed"

Hope it helps,

Tim
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CyrstalB (Maryland)
Posts: 457
Posted:
What great advice! What I am hearing is, a board should anticipate potential problems by reading and understanding your governing documents, because it is within them that you will see the potential for said problems and you can get the policies in place now to potentially avoid them.
AnnH5 (Florida)
Posts: 304
Posted:
1) Have a reserve study done if your HOA has any assets. You can't financially plan for the future if you have no idea how much your HOA will need to be putting into a reserve account.
2) Have a routine maintenance schedule. This should include anything from tree trimming to sealing pavement to painting and pressure washing. If you don't take care of the things you have, you may find that you will have to replace them sooner than later. That can blow up your reserve account if you end up having to replace a major asset.
3) Have a solid collection policy in place and follow it. Your goal is to maintain a healthy balance for operating expenses and reserves.
4) Have a set amount (based on your reserve study) that you will put into the reserve account monthly.
5) Do not put pet projects or "extras" ahead of #2. Yes, it would be nice to add things but when wants come ahead of needs, you could end up with trouble.
6) Openly communicate with the owners. Owners who are kept informed are less likely to be disgruntled.
7) Avoid getting into the agenda of a select few when the whole do not want it/support it/need it. That will also avoid "future problems". You have to represent all owners and not the ten who try to impose their will on everyone else. This is also a surefire way to make everyone lose interest in supporting the HOA.
8) Remember that the HOA as an entity is not exempt from the same rules that are imposed on the owners. It is difficult to enforce a deed restriction when the HOA itself does not follow the same restriction. For example, if the HOA common area is a mess, how would you tell an owner that their property needs to be cleaned up?
9) Stick with reputable, licensed, insured vendors. Don't try to "save money" by having owners do the work that requires a professional. You could end up losing money when you have to hire someone to fix the good intentions but lousy work of a neighbor.
10) Make sure that your insurance matches your community's needs.
11) Learn to discern what is an HOA issue versus a neighborly feud or someone's personal issue. You are only responsible for the business of the HOA.
12) Develop a Code Of Ethics for meetings and member conduct. It doesn't have to be an over the top list of demands, just a simple set of rules to follow.
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
Tim, that's a great list I had not seen before.

Question: If a self-managed HOA only has a few of those policies in place, and then hires a full-service Property Management company, do those companies typically have boilerplate policies they recommend to their HOA clients?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
Geno,

Probably. However, I find it best to look at policies already adopted by other Associations, mainly those in the same County but still look at all policies that are available on the internet. Then modify them to fit our Association needs.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
the property management is to do what the board tells them to do and what is in the contract. People forget that a MC is NOT an HOA member!!! They do not have to adhere or follow the HOA rules. They have to do what the HOA contract tells them to do in that regard. The HOA itself is in charge and hires out an MC to help them accomplish their goals. Lines get blurred often in this relationship. Hence why I try to remind those with MCs to establsh a line between the two. Each HOA is different so where that line is drawn is up to each one... Quite frankly in my self managed HOA I would not have an MC attend our meetings or hold them. However, other HOA they have their MC do the meetings and handle more things. It is what your HOA is comfortable with...

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AnnH5 (Florida)
Posts: 304
Posted:
I disagree somewhat. The MC is there to guide and advise the Board, especially related to statutes. If our MC just did "whatever the Board told them to do", we would have been sued 10 times over already. The MC is licensed and insured and has to follow the statutes and CCRs. Otherwise, standing in court and saying "but the Board made me do it" isn't defensible in the eyes of the law. Years ago, during an especially dark period for our HOA Board, we had a former manager that resigned rather than jeopardize their license.

If you have a good manager, they have worked very hard for their license and it deserves some respect.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Again the board is the one ultimately responsible for following and adhering to the HOA rules and enforcing them. A MC is NOT a member of the HOA. It's good to have a "checks and balances" system in place but it should be internal. If your board is putting the HOA at risk by not following the rules, then it deserves what it gets. It should not blame the MC for their failures. The MC is not a scapegoat either.

Sorry but I believe a HOA is ultimately responsible for it's own actions and following the rules. They may do so with ASSISTANCE from the MC but NOT depend on the MC. That can lead to big mistakes in the long run. Using a MC as a "They/Them" source can damage the "You and Your neighbors" mentality.

Former HOA President
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
I agree that the BoD is ultimately in charge. My question was motivated by the fact that our documents give the board a lot of leeway to promulgate "rules and regulations" for many things but hardly any have ever been enacted. Our CCRs, written in 1988, cover the basic covenants, but there are a lot of ambiguities and gray areas; they'd never pass muster today if they were being drawn up for a new HOA.

A stack of typical, boilerplate rules & regulations that we could customize for our own use would help a lot, and that's what I was really asking about. Now that I think about it, we'd bounce those questions off our attorney as part of a document cleanup first. That's something we'd need to do before even considering hiring a PM.
CyrstalB (Maryland)
Posts: 457
Posted:
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 05/18/2015 9:22 PM
Again the board is the one ultimately responsible for following and adhering to the HOA rules and enforcing them. A MC is NOT a member of the HOA. It's good to have a "checks and balances" system in place but it should be internal. If your board is putting the HOA at risk by not following the rules, then it deserves what it gets. It should not blame the MC for their failures. The MC is not a scapegoat either.

Sorry but I believe a HOA is ultimately responsible for it's own actions and following the rules. They may do so with ASSISTANCE from the MC but NOT depend on the MC. That can lead to big mistakes in the long run. Using a MC as a "They/Them" source can damage the "You and Your neighbors" mentality.

As we found out personally, an MC we had, did not know our docs, did not know state law and pulled his answers out of his butt. And when the smelling stuff hit the oscillating air pusher, he walked away smelling like a rose and the board was nailed for all of it. And we took his lead.

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