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SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
We have 8 dumpsters in our community and it seems the one near the clubhouse gets the most use – probably because it’s alongside a city street that cuts through the community. Every year around this time, when people are doing major cleaning or moving out (because our townhouse community has a lot of rentals - another rant for another day), this dumpster is, once again, a magnet for illegal dumping. The city won't pick this up and the Association winds up paying to have it hauled off.

I pass this dumpster everyday as it's down the street from my unit (we have curbside pickup on our street) and noticed the garbage truck didn't make a stop because a bike, a sofa, some broken furniture and other crap was in the way. Someone also dropped what ppeared to be some sort of dryer or washing machine on the floor of the dumpster shed.

I know some of this may be due to people driving through and dropping off their stuff (some homeowners have reported this, but weren't able to write down the license number), but it’s occurred to me that maybe we should consider locking that dumpster because the others are close enough to certain parts of the community where there’s no need to use this one. I would think this dumpster is best used when the clubhouse is being used and in any case, we wouldn't have to lock it if people would stop tossing stuff they've been told the city won't pick up! However, that may lead to people simply tossing it over the side, creating more of a mess and expense.

Does anyone else have any ideas we could consider? I thought about the association setting up some type of recycling program to relieve some of the problem, but you have to pay extra for that service (Indianapolis isn’t as progressive on recycling as other cities although it has improved somewhat). Thanks for listening to my rant, as always and for any tips you can provide!

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Shelia,

You do the best rants!

Seriously, though, you are in a tough spot. My observation is that people want to get rid of their trash and if you make it difficult to put it in the dumpster, you are going to find people just dumping stuff around your dumpster. Unless your association is willing to pay for an armed guard to stand watch 24/7, your clubhouse dumpster sounds like it will be a magnet for anyone who wants to dispose of anything.

My wife and I have managed self-storage places in the past and know only too well that trying to control what tenants dump is next to impossible. I finally concluded that I would rather have them get their trash near the dumpster rather than leaving it inside their storage units when they vacate.

Can you move the clubhouse dumpster to another side of the building or at least shield it from view of the street? I am surprised to hear that no one swiped that bike. It was either in really bad shape or it did not sit there very long. Find someone who will haul away scrap metal like that washing machine; there are usually people who will haul that stuff away at no charge and it would not hurt to invite one of them onto the property. Sofas and mattresses are always a pain to deal with because they are too big for most dumpsters. About all you can do is bite the bullet and hire someone to haul that stuff to the dump.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
Options (as I see them):

Install a camera near the dumpster (to catch the non-residents).

Contract or arrange for a donation vehicle to come through the development once or twice a month and advertise those days for residents to leave items on the curb. Perhaps, establish a drop off point on the property specifically for those items and contact a donation vehicle as needed.

Contract or arrange for a recycle day every couple of months for electronics.

OR simply post numbers of those contacts for the community, that is, make it as easy as possible for those who won't take the time to look the numbers up on their own.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Thanks gentlemen! I really like the idea on the periodic donation days and will bring that to our board (we have a nice organization that helps ex-cons get job training by running a recycling program for electronics and cardboard.) Since I also run the newsletter, I'll make room (again!) for information on places that can accept most of this stuff.

Unfortunately, we can't move the dumpster - it's actually in the best spot to service the clubhouse (and apparently everyone else!) To be truthful, it's probably too small given the number of people who now live here, but upon consulting with the trash collector a few years ago, we found it would cost even more money to rebuild a bigger pad for a bigger dumpster

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Is there any kind of fencing around it? We had a similar issue with our dumpsters often getting surrounded by trash. Our city has a "Green Team" program that you can report illegal dumpers to. So you called their number or submitted pictures to for action.

Not much you can do with open private resources like dumpster besides maybe put up signs and stating the area has surveillance. Maybe hiding it with a fence so has to be opened and closed. However, make sure the trash people are alright with this and maybe give them a key if you all decide to lock it. Which I would avoid doing. The purpose is just to hide it not to deny access.

Former HOA President
CyrstalB (Maryland)
Posts: 457
Posted:
It's crazy how people think it's ok to dump their crap anywhere isn't it? Before you buy a lock, check with your trash service, if you make it difficult for them, such as a lock, they may balk at that and refuse service. A security camera, plugged in or not might help to a degree.
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
Cheap way? I'd install 5 fake cameras and a sign that says no illegal dumpster use police are notified and we press charges. $50 See if it works.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
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Posted By SheliaH on 05/01/2015 8:55 PM

Unfortunately, we can't move the dumpster - it's actually in the best spot to service the clubhouse (and apparently everyone else!) To be truthful, it's probably too small given the number of people who now live here, but upon consulting with the trash collector a few years ago, we found it would cost even more money to rebuild a bigger pad for a bigger dumpster

So what you are saying is that you have already gone for years with an inadequately-sized dumpster and that you are willing to continue to struggle along with it and the accept the consequences rather than spend, what, one-half of one percent of the monthly budget to put in a larger pad?
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Actually, when we looked at the pad issue, we'd hoped to replace all of them because this is a problem throughout the community. The clubhouse dumpster is the most visible because it's off the city street and that's why it's had the most problems (except for another dumpster that some fools set on fire last summer and we had to pay to replace it and rebuild the trash shed!)

Because of the way the area's designed we can't put in bigger dumpsters - which we learned when we spoke to the trash collector. Unfortunately, our developers were cheap as hell and designed the space stupidly! It really would have been better to reduce the number of units in those areas so the lots could have space for large dumpsters and even carports (only a third of the community has attached one car garages) but sometimes it seems to me they didn't think cars were that important, then changed their mind to build townhouses with garages (and THEN they went bankrupt!)

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
ChrisP5 (Missouri)
Posts: 165
Posted:
We have a very similar dumpster that attracts a lot of non residents (we believe some contracotrs use it as their disposal area) to dispose of items. Unfortunately they often pile the items around the dumpster as you are experiencing. We spend 3-4k per year on special pick ups for the crap people leave. We have tried signs, recycling, donations, etc. We can't fence and lock the area as it wouldn't be picked up and quite frankly we believe people would just like items in front of the gate. The police will pursue illegal dumping so we are installing a camera and hope to eliminate the problem by getting rid of the most frequent abusers.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Shelia

Seems the solution is more frequent emptying of the dumpsters. Pass the cost on to the owners.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
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Posted By JohnC46 on 05/06/2015 4:54 AM
Shelia

Seems the solution is more frequent emptying of the dumpsters. Pass the cost on to the owners.

We looked into this once when we managed the self-storage. We found out that larger dumpsters or more dumpsters cost far less than more trips. But if larger dumpsters or more of them is not an option then more frequent dumping is about the only solution. Somehow I doubt that the extra costs of more dumping is going to bankrupt anyone.

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