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LorraineF1 (Oregon)
Posts: 19
Posted:
Has anyone dealt with an owner whose legal counsel told him he was required to post a sign about security camera installations, when the Bylaws and Declaration are clear about no signs on buildings unless approved by Board? Owner put sign in a place that is not acceptable to the Board and was offered some less conspicuous places to post his sign, but he seems to think what his lawyer has required can override the Condo Bylaws and Declaration. The Board offered several options for re-placing the sign so that it was not visible to all owners. This owner claims that does not meet the legal requirement her lawyer gave him.

Ideas for responding without creating larger rumble?
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Interesting as video surveillance becomes more and more in vogue. I would assume his notification must only be within the range of his cameras.

LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Give him a choice: remove the camera and the sign or just remove the sign.

BTW, how did he get permission to put a camera on the outside of the building? I assume it is on outside of building since the sign seems to be on the outside.

This owner did not offer any authoritative source for this, did he? And he did not provide any written advice from his attorney with a citation of authorities, did he? All you have is his unverified word that his attorney told him this, which may or may not be an accurate recitation of what the attorney did say.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Yes,

Tell him he can't have video cameras.

Also, ask him what Statute requires the posting of signs. Perhaps, he is misunderstanding what the statute says.
BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By TimB4 on 04/27/2015 6:38 PM
Yes,

Tell him he can't have video cameras.

Also, ask him what Statute requires the posting of signs. Perhaps, he is misunderstanding what the statute says.

I wonder if there is a statue in his state that requires the posting of signs. There might be just not listed under the section regarding condominiums. Perhaps in the regular real estate section.

Not exactly the same, but in NE we can not tow vehicles unless there is a sign posted informing of a possible tow.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
With many others, here: Is his camera attached his home? Or on the common area ?

Is it viewing his front door or a common area?

None of us should have no expectation of privacy in a public or common area. But a private party rather than the HOA watching me walk by seems creepy.

(Our urban high rise HOA has 26 cameras viewing many common areas including our swimming pool.)
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By BonnieG1 on 04/27/2015 7:31 PM

I wonder if there is a statue in his state that requires the posting of signs.

I did a brief search on Oregon Statutes and didn't find anything requiring the posting of signs for this.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
I don't think you need a sign posted on private property. You may on PUBLIC/Common areas. You can't expect privacy in a public area. Having a sign does NOT protect anyone if a crime is caught on tape. A good lawyer can get that tossed out regardless posted or not. It kind of falls under wire tapping laws. One can tape you on the phone all day long as long as the other party is aware there is taping taking place. I kind of highly doubt he even got a legal opinion...

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