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CfD (Virginia)
Posts: 265
Posted:
In our HOA boats on trailers are not permitted. We have almost 300 homes and there is exactly one homeowner who has written authorization from the developer to have his boat. This was approved about a decade ago when the developer obviously controlled everything. But the developer is gone and we are under homeowner control now.

Now, some homeowners are trying to rock the boat. Some are asking "if he can park his boat on his property, why can't we?"

If the governing docs said no boat then, say no boat now, and will probably always say no boat, does the current membership have the authority to force this homeowner to get rid of his boat? Should other homeowners be permitted to have boats as well?

As always, thanks for the responses.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
CfD,

Covenants normally would apply to all lots within a development, especially if the covenants were recorded as one document for the entire subdivision (as opposed to having a set of covenants attached to each deed).

Assuming that there is some sort of evidence that the developer/declarant permitted an owner to park a boat when the recorded covenants forbid it, an argument could be made that the declarant himself invalidated that part of the covenants. If it was waived for one then it should be waived for all.

Since the homeowner with the boat apparently has a written waiver from the declarant and the boat has been parked for a decade, your association would have a difficult time convincing a judge that a violation exists. The mere passage of time often bars many otherwise valid claims. Even though the developer controlled the association, any owner could have sued to enforce the covenant against the boat yet none did, implying consent among the other owners.

Your wisest course of action is to do nothing about the boat that is already there. If others ask, "if he can park his boat on his property, why can't we?" the most honest response you can give is, "The association has no authority to waive any covenant." Leave it up to each homeowner to determine whether the covenant prohibiting boats is valid but do not waste your resources trying to enforce what may no longer be enforceable.

LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
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Posted By LarryB13 on 04/14/2015 7:06 AM

If it was waived for one then it should be waived for all.

What I meant was that the developer created an ambiguous situation by forbidding the boat in one place and permitting it elsewhere.

When a party creates an ambiguity, the almost universal approach that the law takes is to resolve the problem is to rule against the person who created the ambiguity. In this case, that part of the covenants that forbids the boat would be ruled unenforceable due to the ambiguity created by the declarant.

MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
If your member controlled, then you all have the power to change/modify the rules you live under. Simply put, your HOA has the ability to modify/change it's documents as it feels fit by majority vote of the membership. If a majority wants to keep boats and trailers, then you follow the process of removing that from your CC&R's and re filing the documents. It may or may not take a special meeting to process.

I say it's a good idea for every 5 to 7 years to make the rules fit lifestyle changes and laws.

Former HOA President
CfD (Virginia)
Posts: 265
Posted:
Thanks for the very interesting info Larry. Would be interesting if other homeowners started parking boats on lots. Believe the vast majority of the association does not want them here.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Cf,

As we know, the devil is in the details. Therefore, the opinions and advice offered by many is based on what are typical details and may not be the specific details for your Association.

However, having access to your governing documents (as an FYI, this development has a 53 page set of CC&Rs), I took a look and could not find anything in the CC&Rs which prohibit boats or boats on trailers. The Bylaws (a 19 page document) do not prohibit boats. Now, the Architectural Guidelines(a 22 page document which appear to also be utilized as adopting rules/regulations) does prohibit boats from being stored on any Lot unless it's inside the garage.

Per the CC&Rs, the developer had initial control of the Architectural Standards Committee (ASC) who's job (per the CC&Rs) is to approve plans, use of lots and enforce violations.

According to section 7.06 of the CC&Rs, once the ASC approves something it is final. The approval can only be revoked or rescinded if the approval violates the CC&Rs. Since the prohibition of boats is not within the CC&Rs, the Association may not revoke the approval granted to that individual by the developer (who controlled the ASC at the time).

Additionally, per section 7.03 of the CC&Rs, allowing one individual to have a waiver of the rules/regs does not require the Committee to grand a similar approval by anyone else. In other words, an argument could be made that your governing documents actually allow selective approvals/enforcement.

Here is the exact wording [emphasis added]:

j. Waiver. The approval of the Architectural Standards Committee of
any plans, drawings or specifications for any work done or proposed, or for any
other matter
requiring the approval of the Architectural Standards Committee
under the Restrictions, shall not be deemed to constitute a waiver of any right to
withhold approval
of any similar plan, drawing, specification or matter
subsequently submitted for approval.

Will such wording withstand a legal challenge? That's an unknown. Most cases alleging selective enforcement that I am aware of didn't have this language in the CC&Rs.

Again, the devil is in the details.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Oh, forgot to add that since the prohibition of boats being stored on the lot is not within the CC&Rs, it's unknown if the rule prohibiting that would withstand a legal challenge as being a rule that was beyond the authority of the Association to adopt.

Normally, rules/regs apply to common areas and not individual lots.
Rules/regs that apply to individual lots are typically located within the CC&Rs.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
To answer your specific questions:

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Posted By CfD on 04/14/2015 5:55 AM

If the governing docs said no boat then, say no boat now, and will probably always say no boat,

As identified earlier, the prohibition is in the rules/regs. Rules and regs should, in my opinion, only be written for the common area or to clarify what is written in the CC&Rs.

Rules and regs can be changed and, in my opinion, should be reviewed and changed as needed every 5-10 years (as things simply change over time).

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Posted By CfD on 04/14/2015 5:55 AM

does the current membership have the authority to force this homeowner to get rid of his boat?

Not per your CC&Rs (as I'm interpreting them).

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Posted By CfD on 04/14/2015 5:55 AM

Should other homeowners be permitted to have boats as well?

Since one is allowed, the only fair thing is to allow all.

Write some rules that specify approved screening to keep the aesthetic view from the street.
CfD (Virginia)
Posts: 265
Posted:
Great response Tim, and thank you.

When reading our Arch Guidelines, be sure to notice how in the first or second paragraph (don't have them in front of me) the member is advised that the architectural guidelines are to be specifically considered along with our Declaration. In our Declaration the covenants listed are described as "minimum standard" I believe.

Also remember that we have a strange scenario in that our entire membership is required to approve our arch guidelines...not just the board. We paid for legal advice on this from the firm that drafted these documents and this is what we are told.

Specifically because our Declaration essentially grants our architectural committee the right to selectively approve anything they want with seemingly no consequence is why I am so insistent upon the arch committee conducting their business openly and transparently. But in board meeting after board meeting the ASC chairman (nobody ever sees the other two members of the ASC) always tells us they have no obligation to have meetings. Our president backs him up on this and the other board members could care less what happens.

They've granted dozens of variances, but assert the members have no right to know what they are.

I can't even get our grounds committee to meet on something as important as the selection of a grounds maintenance contract. Action without meetings is the normal, and sadly preferred, method of conducting almost all business in our HOA...and without any documentation whatsoever.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
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Posted By CfD on 04/16/2015 10:27 AM

When reading our Arch Guidelines, be sure to notice how in the first or second paragraph (don't have them in front of me) the member is advised that the architectural guidelines are to be specifically considered along with our Declaration.

However, If there is a conflict between two documents, the higher precedent document controls (unless it cedes control to the lower document). In fact, your guidelines actually say that [emphasis added]:

These Architectural Guidelines should be considered together with the Declaration, and the other Governing Documents (as defined in the Declaration). If any provision of these Architectural Guidelines conflicts with the terms or provisions of any of the Governing Documents, the terms and provisions of the applicable Governing Documents shall control.

Covenants specify limitations on the lot.

Rules and Regulations apply to conduct and activities on common areas.

Architectural Guidelines are specifically that, guidelines to provide a standard for the approving authority to go by when deciding what will or won't be approved. In fact, that is exactly what the cover of your guidelines say:

These guidelines serve as a uniform guide to both [name] Association members and the members of the Architectural Standards Committee in maintaining and enhancing our beautifully developed community. These guidelines and standards address improvements for which homeowners will most often submit applications to the Architectural Standards Committee. They are not intended to be all-inclusive or exclusive, but rather serve as a guide to identifying improvements permissible in the community.

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Posted By CfD on 04/16/2015 10:27 AM

Also remember that we have a strange scenario in that our entire membership is required to approve our arch guidelines...not just the board.

However, if there is a conflict, then it doesn't matter.

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Posted By CfD on 04/16/2015 10:27 AM

We paid for legal advice on this from the firm that drafted these documents and this is what we are told.

Ahh, but what questions were asked when seeking legal advice?

Asking for a review and legal opinion of a document is one thing. Asking for a review and legal opinion if anything in the document conflicts with another document is another.

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Posted By CfD on 04/16/2015 10:27 AM

Action without meetings is the normal, and sadly preferred, method of conducting almost all business in our HOA...and without any documentation whatsoever.

Hopefully that behavior won't come back and hurt the Association in the future.

Keep fighting the good fight.
CfD (Virginia)
Posts: 265
Posted:
Thanks again Tim. I understand the Declaration rules if there is a conflict. We specifically asked our attorney what procedure was necessary to change our guidelines. Can't remember which version of the arch guidelines I sent you, but much of what you are quoting was language only recently added, really without complying with the restrictions in the Declaration outlined to make the changes to begin with.

As an example, our "guidelines" require all homes to have all brick exteriors and must be at least 2800 square feet. Homeowners would have to vote to change those requirements. It sounds like your opinion is our ASC could authorize the construction of a 1500 square foot home with vinyl siding and there would be nothing we could do about it.

I respectfully disagree
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
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Posted By CfD on 04/17/2015 12:37 PM [emphasis added]

As an example, our "guidelines" require all homes to have all brick exteriors and must be at least 2800 square feet. Homeowners would have to vote to change those requirements. It sounds like your opinion is our ASC could authorize the construction of a 1500 square foot home with vinyl siding and there would be nothing we could do about it.

No, that's not what I'm saying. Per the language concerning waivers in your CC&Rs, If a waiver by the ASC is not in compliance with the Declaration, said waiver can (and should) be revoked by the Board.

However, per your CC&Rs, if a waiver by the ASC does not violate any restriction or condition specified in the CC&Rs the waiver may not be revoked. Again, that is per the terms of your contract (the CC&Rs).
CfD (Virginia)
Posts: 265
Posted:
What am I missing Tim? You've said the guidelines are only guidelines, not the CC&Rs, and the ASC can grant variances at will to the guidelines.

How would authorizing the construction of a 1500 square foot home with vinyl siding not be in compliance with our CC&Rs?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
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Posted By CfD on 04/17/2015 6:09 PM
What am I missing Tim? You've said the guidelines are only guidelines, not the CC&Rs, and the ASC can grant variances at will to the guidelines.

How would authorizing the construction of a 1500 square foot home with vinyl siding not be in compliance with our CC&Rs?

Cf,

I don't have your governing documents with me. Therefore, I can't answer that.

However, if the only requirement on the size of the home is in the guidelines and not in the CC&Rs, based on the terms of your contract (the CC&Rs) as I (a layman) understand them, then the ASC could authorize a waiver.

You may certainly disagree with that. However, that is what your contract appears to say. You would need to get a legal opinion to be sure and a court case to be positive on what the contract actually says. The question to ask on the legal opinion would be that exact one you asked:

The guidelines specify a 2800 sq ft house as a minimum.
The CC&Rs allow the ASC to grant waivers and specifies that such waiver is final unless it's in violation of the CC&Rs.
If the ASC granted a waiver to the size of the home, could that waiver be revoked by the Board under the terms of the CC&Rs?

If you don't like that the contract says that, then change the terms of the contract.

SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
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What I meant was that the developer created an ambiguous situation by forbidding the boat in one place and permitting it elsewhere.


My advice? Vote to change the CCR/Bylaws and let everyone have boats. Its a very stupid regulation anyway. LOL.
AmandaR2 (South Carolina)
Posts: 566
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Posted By SteveM9 on 04/19/2015 5:59 AM

What I meant was that the developer created an ambiguous situation by forbidding the boat in one place and permitting it elsewhere.


My advice? Vote to change the CCR/Bylaws and let everyone have boats. Its a very stupid regulation anyway. LOL.

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