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RonW7 (Ohio)
Posts: 122
Posted:
If fees need to be increased to account for new expenses that have previously been unaccounted for, what is the process to increase the fees accordingly? Does the president have that power or does it have to be presented to the community or board for majority vote?

I've checked the CCRs and Ohio Revised Code, but it just says that the board has the authority to increase fees. While it could be assumed that this means "the board [with majority approval]", exact wording would be more helpful.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Although there are some State Statutes that specify procedures for assessment increases, It's typically the governing documents that control.

The CC&Rs typically specify that the Board would set the amount of the annual assessment. Some CC&Rs may limit how much of an increase the Board can make or the maximum amount of the assessment. However, most simply say that the Board is to fix an amount.

The Articles of Incorporation (if your association is incorporated) will also typically specify that the Board fixes the amount of the annual assessment.

The Bylaws will typically have procedures (if any) for increasing assessments. In our case, it's the Bylaws that limit the Board to 5% and requires membership approval for more than 5%.

Therefore, check your Bylaws as well as your CC&Rs.

If the governing documents are silent and applicable State statutes are silent, then the decision is entirely the Boards.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Ron

Not in Ohio, but our Covenants say the BOD can increase assessments (dues) yearly and must notify each owner at least 30 days prior to the end of the fiscal year. The increased assessment (dues) shall become effective unless disapproved by a majority of the Total Association Vote. Basically it says we can raise assessments (dues) only once a year and the owners do not need to approve the increase but they can disapprove it.

There is also a clause that allows the BOD to raise assessments the same % as US Consumer Price Index (CPI-U) if the Total Association Vote does not approve the BOD increased assessment.

The BOD also has the right to levy specific assessments which must be approved by 2/3rds of the Total Association Vote. Some owners tried to get such done for improvements around a pond but it became obvious to them it would not come close to approval so they dropped the idea.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Tim touched on this, Ron, but I want to emphasize that even if your own docs simply say the Board may increase dues, state laws, such as in CA, very well mazy place a ceiling on the increase. Beyond that might require a H/O vote.
RonW7 (Ohio)
Posts: 122
Posted:
Tim -

Yes, I know that the board decides on the fee amount, but what protocol is the board to follow when increasing the fees? Is it a majority vote within the board or does the president have the executive authority to increase fees on their own? If there is no specific verbiage on this, what is the default?

I did several text searches through our CCRs and could not locate anything specific other than that the board may adjust the common assessment as necessary.

KerryL1 -

I looked through chapter 5311 of the Ohio Revised Code and couldn't find anything there, either.
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
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Posted By RonW7 on 04/11/2015 12:29 PM
Is it a majority vote within the board or does the president have the executive authority to increase fees on their own? If there is no specific verbiage on this, what is the default?

I have never heard of the president having the authority to raise fees,

If your CCRs state the board has the authority to raise fees, then that's it. If there are no words stating that the president has this authority, then he/she does not; period. Unless your documents state a specific majority vote of the board (such as a 2/3 majority) then a simple majority (more than half) of the board members are all that is required to raise fees.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
I've never heard of the prez having the authority to alone raise dues either! Usually the president does not have much authority. When the documents say "the Board decides," they mean the entire board voting at a meeting if your state requires pine meetings.

How voting goes in your board meetings should be in your bylaws if you're incorporated. If not in your bylaws, your state's corporations codes should lay it out for you.

As prez give every director a copy of the proposed budget and the calculations about how much dues need to be erased in your opinion. or, don't you have a treasurer?

HO many households are in your HOA, Ron? What are your annual dues now?
RonW7 (Ohio)
Posts: 122
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Posted By KerryL1 on 4/11/2015 2:08:24 PM

As prez give every director a copy of the proposed budget and the calculations about how much dues need to be erased in your opinion. or, don't you have a treasurer?

Our treasurer is basically the management company we hired. Now watch someone come along and say, "No, that doesn't count as a treasurer." I wouldn't be surprised because I've gotten everything else wrong so far =\.

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Posted By KerryL1 on 4/11/2015 2:08:24 PM

HO many households are in your HOA, Ron? What are your annual dues now?

We have 20 units. Fees are $130/mo. $31.2k/ann. We put about 20% away for reserve, but have two major recurring expenses hitting us starting this year and all years going forward, so a fee increase is not only necessary, but critical.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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Well, Ron, officers on the board, like the treasurer, usually must be owners, but not always. It depends on what your documents, probably your bylaws, say.

Often PMs take care of an HOA's finances, but that doesn't give them the title of "treasurer." Still the PM defietley should b able to arise your board about how to raise dues--the protocol!

In most HOA, officers are chosen by directors from among themselves.

Beyond the landscaping, what are these two major recurring expenses hitting you, Ron?
RonW7 (Ohio)
Posts: 122
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Posted By KerryL1 on 4/11/2015 4:03:15 PM

Beyond the landscaping, what are these two major recurring expenses hitting you, Ron?


copy/pasta from my other thread:

Basically, our board has been operated poorly in the past. We have common areas local to each unit that, until I came along, were thought to be the responsibility of the members. Because of this misconception, the board has never hired service providers to tend to these areas and the unit owners have stopped maintaining them.

New landscaping was also added alongside our buildings in 2013 and the board at the time didn't hire anyone to tend to these because the president was doing it himself (he was moving and most likely didn't want to tell everyone they'd have to pay for it after he left).

We've also never properly funded any reserves and there have been times when we've had next to nothing in the bank. After an insurance settlement in 2012, we were able to stash a large sum of money in our account, but now it's time to start hiring service providers to care for these nasty-looking common areas while also funding the roof reserve ar $5k per year and the misc reserve at $1k per year (I stashed some extra settlement money into this one for good measure).
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Posted By RonW7 on 04/11/2015 2:49 PM
Posted By KerryL1 on 4/11/2015 2:08:24 PM

As prez give every director a copy of the proposed budget and the calculations about how much dues need to be erased in your opinion. or, don't you have a treasurer?


Our treasurer is basically the management company we hired. Now watch someone come along and say, "No, that doesn't count as a treasurer." I wouldn't be surprised because I've gotten everything else wrong so far =\.

Unless your governing documents specify that the office must be held by a Director (typically this only applies to the President and perhaps the VP) anyone may fill that office.

I don't think it's smart to have the MC as your Treasurer, and this has been discussed many times. Hopefully, you have put safeguards in place to minimize risk to the association.

See the following thread in this forum:

Subject: If you use a PM or MC, does your Association have policies in place for trust but verify?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Posted By RonW7 on 04/11/2015 12:29 PM
Tim -

Yes, I know that the board decides on the fee amount, but what protocol is the board to follow when increasing the fees? Is it a majority vote within the board or does the president have the executive authority to increase fees on their own? If there is no specific verbiage on this, what is the default?

Decisions of the Board are made by majority vote.

Note: The Board fixes the amount. This means, it's a decision of the Board - the whole board.
RonW7 (Ohio)
Posts: 122
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Posted By TimB4 on 4/11/2015 4:26:28 PM

Decisions of the Board are made by majority vote.

Note: The Board fixes the amount. This means, it's a decision of the Board - the whole board.


By "whole board", you mean a majority of the entire board? If so, that makes sense. Otherwise, "whole board" could be taken as "unanimous vote" which would send me into the depths of confusion.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Yes I mean a majority vote of the Board done at a meeting where a quorum is present.

This means that as long as a quorum is present, the vote for increase can take place and, as with any vote of the Board, majority rules.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Tim adds nicely to what Bruce & I wrote above. As Bruce points out, the vote usually needs to be a majority of those present. Again, you PM should be able to advise you on these points.

Now, a quorum usually means a majority of the Board. (While rare, it seems that some bylaws define a quorum in some other way).

If you're incorporated, find your bylaws! Read them!
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Based on the responses so far, it appears your board will have the final say on fee increases - our documents say they can be increased up to 5% over current year assessments, otherwise homeowner approval is required.

Just like your reserve situation in your other conversation, homeowner education is essential. I would provide homeowners with a copy of the budget and explain what the deficiencies are, and then describe what the board will do with the additional money. If you have major expenses coming down the pike, you should tell them what will happen if the assessments aren't increased - better to pay a little more every year over time than be socked with a special assessment that no one can afford.

If people still balk, tell them current services may need to be reduced or cut out altogether because they will also be increasing - do they want to take on those services personally? If not, they will have to do like everyone else does - pay up and adjust your spending accordingly. If they don't like it, no one's forcing them to stay, so they can always sell their homes. But who will buy it when the association's finances are so shaky?

Communication is the key - everyone has a right to know where the money's coming from and where it's going, so the board should also be reviewing its practices and vendors to see what can be tweaked. Tell the homeowners what you're and ask them for suggestions. You'll find many will shaddap because actually going out and getting bids, negotiating contracts and checking a contractor's background requires WORK - and of course, they don't want to do that either....

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JeanI (Louisiana)
Posts: 112
Posted:
What is required in voting percentage when the Board acts on a motion? Usually majority vote of the Board passes any legislation. JeanI
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,001
Posted:
however:

the association MUST be 'properly funded'

if the BOD does NOT properly fund as per the covenants then they are NOT performing their function as a corporate BOD

then any member may petition a court of law to appoint a receiver

said receiver WILL fund ALL covenant required issues

INCLUDING the receiver's salary and costs

If y'all are NOT incorporated it will quickly become 'every man for himself' chaos

BEST OF LUCK
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Ron IMHO state law is quite clear on this: (bold by poster)

5311.081 Powers and duties of board of directors.

(A) Unless otherwise provided in the declaration or bylaws, the unit owners association, through the board of directors, shall do both of the following:

(1) Adopt and amend budgets for revenues, expenditures, and reserves in an amount adequate to repair and replace major capital items in the normal course of operations without the necessity of special assessments, provided that the amount set aside annually for reserves shall not be less than ten per cent of the budget for that year unless the reserve requirement is waived annually by the unit owners exercising not less than a majority of the voting power of the unit owners association;

(2) Collect assessments for common expenses from unit owners.


Notice it doesn't say the president it says the Board. Nobody likes to raise assessments especially on those poor fixed income folks, who somehow usually can afford everything else. Your Board has an obligation under law to collect enough to pay for operations and fund reserves. The problem being the fewer the number of units, the higher the percentage they'll need to pay.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions

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