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RonW7 (Ohio)
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I am finalizing our HOA's new adopted community rules. Since Realtors and lenders often like to see the association's governing documents, I want to include a mission statement at the top of the adopted rules so that the potential buyer knows that the association is serious about attracting "the best of the best". This is critical right now because chronic apathy has run rampant throughout the community and we're headed into dark times unless we can start attracting buyers who appreciate an association that actually cares about protecting everyone's collective investment.

Do any of you have mission statements in your documents or anything that summarizes the intentions of the association? If so, what's a great way to turn away potential buyers whose primary concern above all else is paying a low monthly fee?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
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Your mission statement should be within your Articles of Incorporation as the purpose of the Assocaition.
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,001
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No.

and

You should not discourage a sale - period.

Y'all are NOT the monitors of anything except the common elements.
AmandaR2 (South Carolina)
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Posted By JohnB26 on 03/28/2015 12:16 PM

You should not discourage a sale - period.

Y'all are NOT the monitors of anything except the common elements.

Have to agree with both above statements, any discouraging of a sale would be counterproductive, IMO.
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
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O ~ M ~ G
AmandaR2 (South Carolina)
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right back at ya, JohnB!
AmandaR2 (South Carolina)
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Posted By RonW7 on 03/28/2015 11:17 AM
I am finalizing our HOA's new adopted community rules. Since Realtors and lenders often like to see the association's governing documents, I want to include a mission statement at the top of the adopted rules so that the potential buyer knows that the association is serious about attracting "the best of the best". This is critical right now because chronic apathy has run rampant throughout the community and we're headed into dark times unless we can start attracting buyers who appreciate an association that actually cares about protecting everyone's collective investment.

Do any of you have mission statements in your documents or anything that summarizes the intentions of the association? If so, what's a great way to turn away potential buyers whose primary concern above all else is paying a low monthly fee?

I see nothing wrong with putting together a brief informal description of what your community as a whole wishes to try and maintain a great, friendly and well maintained environment. I actually think it's a good idea to put together something like that to make a friendly impression on potential buyers if you have the resources to create something like that and distribute it to the realtors and lenders. It may help a potential buyer choose your community IMO.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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NO Realtors or Mortgage companies do NOT see the HOA's documents. It is viewed as the "Potential Buyer" responsibility to be informed. The documents are made PUBLIC but are NOT the responsibility to be provided EXCEPT by the Seller in many states. Don't depend on a Realtor, lawyer, or Mortgage company to be aware of the HOA in ALL cases. Those are questions one needs to ask when purchasing a home. Realtors, lawyer, or mortgage companies are NOT required to follow the HOA rule so why would they know anything about them besides existence?

We put out a brochure to our potential buyers. It basically stated we are an HOA. Where to find the documents. What our HOA dues covered. A few of our common rules regarding color selections, garbage pickup, animals, and top FAQ's. It really helped so that potential owners knew their was an HOA and what we covered.

Former HOA President
AmandaR2 (South Carolina)
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 03/28/2015 12:47 PM
NO Realtors or Mortgage companies do NOT see the HOA's documents. It is viewed as the "Potential Buyer" responsibility to be informed. The documents are made PUBLIC but are NOT the responsibility to be provided EXCEPT by the Seller in many states. Don't depend on a Realtor, lawyer, or Mortgage company to be aware of the HOA in ALL cases. Those are questions one needs to ask when purchasing a home. Realtors, lawyer, or mortgage companies are NOT required to follow the HOA rule so why would they know anything about them besides existence?

We put out a brochure to our potential buyers. It basically stated we are an HOA. Where to find the documents. What our HOA dues covered. A few of our common rules regarding color selections, garbage pickup, animals, and top FAQ's. It really helped so that potential owners knew their was an HOA and what we covered.

How did you get the brochure into the hands of the potential buyers Melissa? I'm just curious because in associations that I have lived in at times the HOA did contact the realtor and provide information to them. I realize it's not required, but they chose do do so.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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Please forgive me on this statement but Realtors are akin to car salesman. You can find one on every corner and not exactly trustworthy. I can't imagine being able to contact every realtor to give them this information. FHA type loans are basically the only ones that may track HOA's at all. There are way more mortgage programs out there that do not pay attention to a HOA existence.

We had a mailbox up front at our entrance. I put copies of our brochures in them. Plus I put one in our glass case for review. If anyone wanted a copy, I'd print one out for them. If I could catch a realtor, sometimes give them one at their open houses.


Former HOA President
RonW7 (Ohio)
Posts: 122
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All -

The wording wouldn't be crafted in any way that actually says "we don't want this type of resident". Instead, focus would be placed on points such as how continued investment and upkeep in the community helps maintain property values. This type of emphasis could serve as a sort of bittering agent to those who are too intimidated by or apathetic toward the amount of effort required to attain that level of preservation within the community.

Besides, HOAs turn away buyers all the time with just their adopted rules alone. Strict pet policies will turn away buyers with yappy dogs and screechy birds. Guidelines that prohibit the recreational use of common water resources will turn away buyers who like to fill up a mini pool for their kids in the summer. Prohibiting the storage of watercraft on common parking will turn away the buyer who is looking for a place that will allow him to park his boat and trailer for free.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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HOA's do NOT maintain or increase/decrease Home Values!!! That is a misconception. HOA's ATTRACT potential buyers to sell them homes. Home values are based on REAL NUMBERS!!! I could decide to not buy a house because I hated the wallpaper. Does that mean the house is less valuable? No. What factors in on house values is what a house of similar size/bedrooms/baths sells for in a few mile radius. That is to include foreclosures and short sales as well in last 6 months.

It's just a general good idea to keep your home in good condition and those around you to make sure people want to buy your home.

Former HOA President
RonW7 (Ohio)
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 03/28/2015 1:23 PM
HOA's do NOT maintain or increase/decrease Home Values!!! That is a misconception. HOA's ATTRACT potential buyers to sell them homes. Home values are based on REAL NUMBERS!!! I could decide to not buy a house because I hated the wallpaper. Does that mean the house is less valuable? No. What factors in on house values is what a house of similar size/bedrooms/baths sells for in a few mile radius. That is to include foreclosures and short sales as well in last 6 months.

It's just a general good idea to keep your home in good condition and those around you to make sure people want to buy your home.

Did I use the wrong word somewhere? I probably did. Maybe I said something that made it sound like I was saying that "HOAs increase property values"? I don't know.

What I am saying, however, is that the elected board has quite an impact on the value of property within an association. If the president ignores all of the blown-in debri that has accumulated in bushes, conscious buyers who care wouldn't touch the community with a ten-foot stick. That's what this mission statement is about. It's about the board drafting community rules and also including what is expected of the residents, as well as what's required in order to keep the community in good financial health. The board dictates all association affairs, so the mission statement could change as soon as the next board gets voted in.

At any rate, I think my original question was answered.

Q: Do you any of you have a mission statement for your community?
A: No.
AmandaR2 (South Carolina)
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Posted By RonW7 on 03/28/2015 1:16 PM
All -

Besides, HOAs turn away buyers all the time with just their adopted rules alone. Strict pet policies will turn away buyers with yappy dogs and screechy birds. Guidelines that prohibit the recreational use of common water resources will turn away buyers who like to fill up a mini pool for their kids in the summer. Prohibiting the storage of watercraft on common parking will turn away the buyer who is looking for a place that will allow him to park his boat and trailer for free.

Ron you make a valid point.
AmandaR2 (South Carolina)
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 03/28/2015 1:15 PM
Please forgive me on this statement but Realtors are akin to car salesman. You can find one on every corner and not exactly trustworthy. I can't imagine being able to contact every realtor to give them this information. FHA type loans are basically the only ones that may track HOA's at all. There are way more mortgage programs out there that do not pay attention to a HOA existence.

We had a mailbox up front at our entrance. I put copies of our brochures in them. Plus I put one in our glass case for review. If anyone wanted a copy, I'd print one out for them. If I could catch a realtor, sometimes give them one at their open houses.


Thanks Melissa,

Actually contacting "every realtor" was not an issue at all in any of the communities I've lived in, because usually there weren't many houses for sale at the same time, (thankfully a good thing as far as property values are concerned.)

(The exception being one where their was still building going on and in that case the declarant and his realtor did a good job informing potential purchasers of what the HOA entailed.)

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