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BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
Posted:
As members of the Board were walking around our property with the people who will now be in charge of our yard work, one of the Board members directed my attention to the top of our third story building.

There was something white on the building. It appeared to be about 3 square feet. and almost looked like someone had done some painting. But to reach the area to paint, the person would have needed a 3 story tall ladder. Not only that but it is on the side of our building that faces the Care Center and one would think that someone from the Care Center would have noticed a person climbing on a ladder.

Does anyone have any idea what this white on our building could be?

AmandaR2 (South Carolina)
Posts: 566
Posted:
efflorescence?? (it's a whitish powdery deposit that appears on brick or stonework sometimes, we see it on some brick homes here in the south)
AmandaR2 (South Carolina)
Posts: 566
Posted:
only thing is it usually appears towards the bottom of building I believe it has something to do with mineral deposits and moisture, try googling it to see if the description fits.
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,001
Posted:
....if Amanda says so !
AmandaR2 (South Carolina)
Posts: 566
Posted:
Just trying to be helpful JohnB, is there fault in that? I am familiar with brick homes. (no one else was suggesting anything including you)
MarkM31 (Washington)
Posts: 556
Posted:
Since photo's can't be posted with this archaic system, I suggest you go to someplace like www.diychatroom.com where photographs can be posted and people can see what the problem looks like.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
Actually, photos can be posted. Place the photo in a word document and attach that document (keep in mind the size limitations).

However, Mark makes a good point. Without photos, it's like asking what do I see out my window?

Those who can't see it, certainly can't answer that.

Amanda mentioned one thing it could be Efflorescence (click link for pdf file about causes and control)

Without seeing the issue, anything would be speculation. Example of other possibilities (bird droppings, paint done with a roller from a nearby window, reflection from the sun, mass hallucination, etc.)

FredS7 (Arizona)
Posts: 927
Posted:
> efflorescence??

First thing I thought of.
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,001
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By AmandaR2 on 03/28/2015 6:43 AM
Just trying to be helpful JohnB, is there fault in that? I am familiar with brick homes. (no one else was suggesting anything including you)

internet guesswork will NOT be helpful

merely

time wasting

the 'white spectre' will have to be inspected 'up close' no matter what we all say or think or guess

however

let us bored old folk babble on and on and on

and on
AmandaR2 (South Carolina)
Posts: 566
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JohnB26 on 03/28/2015 8:31 AM
Posted By AmandaR2 on 03/28/2015 6:43 AM
Just trying to be helpful JohnB, is there fault in that? I am familiar with brick homes. (no one else was suggesting anything including you)


internet guesswork will NOT be helpful

merely

time wasting

the 'white spectre' will have to be inspected 'up close' no matter what we all say or think or guess

however

let us bored old folk babble on and on and on

and on

I must say JohnB your posts are NEVER:

-NOT helpful
-time wasting
-babble

(nor platitudinous)



BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By MarkM31 on 03/28/2015 7:20 AM
Since photo's can't be posted with this archaic system, I suggest you go to someplace like www.diychatroom.com where photographs can be posted and people can see what the problem looks like.

I thought it would be good to post a photo. However, I don't have a smart phone or a digital camera. Although I can take pictures with my "stupid" phone, I can not send any pictures to the internet. I have tried and even went to the company store to get help with posting pictures to the internet. I was told with my current phone, I do not have the ability to post pictures to the internet.

It would be cost prohibitive for me to use regular film and get a cd for just one picture.

But thanks for the suggestion. I wish I could post pictures to the internet.

I can put my pictures from my phone to the computer, but I have to upload every single picture I have on my phone to just get one picture.
BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By AmandaR2 on 03/27/2015 7:17 PM
efflorescence?? (it's a whitish powdery deposit that appears on brick or stonework sometimes, we see it on some brick homes here in the south)

I checked on this and Amanda, your response makes sense. This is part of what I found.

Efflorescence is a crystaline deposit on surfaces of masonry, stucco or concrete. It is whitish in appear­ance, and is sometimes referred to as "whiskers". Efflorescence has been a problem for many years, and is a topic of much controversy. The formation of these salt deposits are not mysteries. They are, for the most part, water-soluble salts that come from many possible sources to mar and detract from an other­wise beautiful and serviceable structure. First of all, there must be water present to dissolve and trans­port the salts. Groundwater is often a source of efflorescence. For water to carry or move the salts to the surface there must be channels through which to move and migrate. The more dense the material, whether it be brick, stone, stucco or concrete, the more difficult for the water to transport salts to the surface. Conversely, the more porous the material, the greater the ease with which salts are transported and deposited. Salt-bearing water, on reaching the surface of a structure, air evaporates to deposit the salt. When humidity is low, the water may evaporate before reaching the surface of the structure, leaving the salt deposit beneath the surface, and unseen. When the humidity is high, water evaporation is slower allowing more opportunity for whisker growth. Growths which project 1/4 to 1/2 inch below the surface have been reported in some areas of the country.

Since humidity has a definite effect on whether or not the salts appear, it can be assumed that efflores­cence is a seasonal problem. The intensity of efflorescence increases after rainy winter seasons, de­creases in spring, and by summer has practically disappeared. This cycle may repeat for months or years, but generally the intensity of the efflorescence decreases in all but very extreme cases, and by about the third year it should be practically eliminated.

The mechanics by which efflorescing salts are carried to the surface of structures by moisture and capillary action through porous materials, is understood. The amount and character of the material deposited varies considerable, depending on the nature and source of the soluble materials.
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,001
Posted:
so ...... have a maintenance person brush it off

simple
FredS7 (Arizona)
Posts: 927
Posted:
> so ...... have a maintenance person brush it off

Sure...but it probably indicates some sort of moisture infiltration, and could be symptomatic of a more significant problem.

If I saw efflorescence on a short retaining wall (and, it turns out, I DO have efflorescence on a retaining wall) I wouldn't worry very much. But on a wall up high...I would have the roof and flashing checked out. Maybe not urgently, but in due course.
DarleneN
Posts: 25
Posted:

Been there, done that!!! We have red brick entry "walls" at the beginning of the drive. One of them had effervescence in a huge spot at the upper portion and running down. The big box hardware stores do have a remover for it. You scrub and scrub with a solution. You can also use Muriatic acid which is a tad safer. Even good old vinegar will work with a lot more scrubbing.

We did ours with days of scrubbing and then again when it dried. Finally it was gone but it took a good stiff broom and one final sweeping to get rid of the powdery residue left in a couple of spots.

But when rinsed and done you absolutely must apply a sealer such as used on concrete or decks. It does work is the good news. A lot of scrubbing is the bad news.

If you google effervescence, you will see lots of 'tricks'. All involve scrubbing as far as I know.

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