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KarenT (Washington)
Posts: 250
Posted:
I'm the manager of a very small homeowner's association in Washington. We only have 12 homeowners in the association. Last June a residence was sold to an individual who listed the house for sale. H nofified me with a little note he was having trouble selling and would be renting the residence. After observing his renter was running a daycare in conjuction with the Daycare across the street, we discovered he actually had accepted an offer to sell the residence but it wasn't scheduled to close until September 2007 and the purchaser was the owner of the Day Care across the street. An employee of the Daycare was actually the occupant of the residence. We had to finally retain an attorney to send a letter to him, his realtor and the buyers realtor stating the CCR's strictly prohibted business use. We requested in writing that he reimburse the association for legal fees and his realtor left a message indicating the homeowner felt he didn't owe for the legal fees. We have attempted repeatedly by telephone, letters and in person to discuss this issue with the homeowner but he refuses to communicate with us. He also has re-rented the residence and again not communicated that to us. Any suggestions or recommendations?
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Karen, why would you think the homeowner is responsible for your decision to hire an attorney to send the notice? As the manager why didn't you simply advise the homeowner on the CC&Rs restriction or isn't that part of your job?
KarenT (Washington)
Posts: 250
Posted:
He knew we were going to hire an attorney and was advised he was part of that decision.
KarenT (Washington)
Posts: 250
Posted:
P.S. I sent the homeowner a letter stating the CCR's strictly prohibited business use and requested that he notify his tenant to cease all activity related to the daycare. He informed me he sent a certified letter to the purchaser - who didn't sign for it, someone else did. So I notified him that we were hiring an attorney because they would not cease the activity related to the daycare.
KarenT (Washington)
Posts: 250
Posted:
P.S. I sent the homeowner a letter stating the CCR's strictly prohibited business use and requested that he notify his tenant to cease all activity related to the daycare. He informed me he sent a certified letter to the purchaser - who didn't sign for it, someone else did. So I notified him that we were hiring an attorney because they would not cease the activity related to the daycare.
HaroldS1 (Arizona)
Posts: 314
Posted:
I don't know about Washington, but in Arizona you can't collect legal fees or fines by demanding them in a letter. In Arizona you would need a court judgment AND file a lien before even attempting to collect. Under National Fair Debt laws he can request you stop contacting him about those legal fees. Your attorney ought to know that. Doesn't mean he may not owe them, but you will need to use other legal means to try to collect.
He has complied with your demand and has re rented - to another day care? IF not, what is your problem? And why is the day care across the street able to operate? Are they not in your association? Harold
KarenT (Washington)
Posts: 250
Posted:
The Daycare across the street is a commercial licensed daycare. In a discussion with the owner of that daycare they indicated they always buy a residence adjacent to their facilities to house their employees.
We told our homeowner we didn't care who purchased the residence but business use was prohibited by our CCR's. Our attorney cited a court case Peckham v. Milroy, 104 Wn.App.887 (2001) regarding daycares. I have just sent another letter asking him to meet with us to discuss the issues of the subdivison. He has never come to any of our meetings regular or special although he has been given written notice and been contacted by telephone by me and the assistant manager requesting he attend.
TracyT (Maryland)
Posts: 228
Posted:
So the Daycare company bought [was going to buy] the house so there employee(s) can stay there. The person resides in you HOA and works at the Daycare company across the street. Do I have that correct?

Is the person who resides in your HOA baby sitting childern at the house? What proof do you have that this person is running a business out of the unit another than they can be seen commutting to work across the street? Otherwise what is the issue if the unit is being used for residential purposes?

GloriaM (North Carolina)
Posts: 829
Posted:
Karen:

In NC once the Owner is sent a letter to come into complaince and does not, they are called to a Hearing in front of the Executive Board of Directors. Whether they show or not does not negate the board from imposing fines against the Owner. A Notice of their decision is sent to them spelling out the fines according to the board and most importantly the NC Planned Community Act, along with an invoice (if there are fines). After 30-days the fines accrue, they are sent a final notice and then at that time sent to the attorney for a judgement or lien. Most times a resolution is sought at the Hearing and the problem is solved between Owner and the board.
KarenT (Washington)
Posts: 250
Posted:
Yes, the Daycare company was going to buy and have ther employee live there. We have photos and video of them taking children across the street back and forth from the daycare, clients stopping at the daycare and dropping off or picking up children and then driving across or walking across the street to pickup infants and toddlers. We turned them into CPS as this is a very busy street and also to the child care licensing for the state. The day we informed the owner we were going to get an attorney, they moved in the middle of the night which was observed by me and another homeowner.
KarenT (Washington)
Posts: 250
Posted:
We are going to pursue further legal action if he fails to communicate with us and he has been informed he will be liable for those costs.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
I believe you may be able to place a lien on the property for the legal fees owed. Typically, a lien/foreclosure can ONLY be done for unpaid dues. However, it can be done for the work a HOA has voted to be done and the owner refuses to pay.
I would talk to your attorney about placing the lien. Depending on what state your in, the cost for a lien can be minimal and charged back to the individual on the lien. You can send the notice certified mail if you want. However, in the process of a lien, an ad is placed in a PUBLIC newspaper (legals sections in the classifieds) notifying of the lien is going to be or has been placed on the property. That is considered a PUBLIC notice and can suffice as an official notice. Many divorce cases use this method to contact absetee spouses who refuse to sign the paperwork.
Read your rules and find out what punishments apply for violating this rule. You may be able to report them to the IRS for illegal use of the property. I am sure they file taxes on the property. The IRS is funny about classifying what is a "home office" and a "home operated business". The fact that it is NOT allowed, may bare on their opinion on taxes.

Former HOA President
JM2 (Oregon)
Posts: 439
Posted:
Hi Karen:

Here is the procedure I would recommend:
1) Get a warranty deed to make sure who is the legal owner.
2) Send (if you haven't already) a violation notice according to the procedures your HOA has in place.
3) Follow the violation procedures exactly.
4) When the point comes where the attorney should be involved, involve the attorney to sue for enforcement and/or collection of fines, as allowed by your documents and state law. You'll probably want to get an injunction against any daycare activity happening in the home - whatsover. No daycare kids on the Lot, no daycare parking in the driveway, etc.

You may want to involve the HOA lawyer right off the bat, to send the letters, if you think that would be helpful. It might cost the HOA some money, but solve the issue more directly.

Best of luck...

J. Patrick Moore, CMCA
JM2 (Oregon)
Posts: 439
Posted:
Hi Karen:

One more thing - send every notice by both 1st class and certified mail.

JPM
TracyT (Maryland)
Posts: 228
Posted:
Gloria,

"In NC once the Owner is sent a letter to come into complaince and does not, they are called to a Hearing in front of the Executive Board of Directors."

Is the Hearing held at an open or closed meeting session. Thanks.

Tracy
GloriaM (North Carolina)
Posts: 829
Posted:
Tracey:

It is between the board and the Owner, it is a closed session with only the persons involved.
KarenT (Washington)
Posts: 250
Posted:
I work in Real Estate management so I have have experience finding legal deeded owners, etc.... But thanks for the info. I went thru all these steps and the owner still refuses to communicate.
We also filed a complaint with the Department of Early Learning in Washington State, they are the governing agency who oversees licensing of residential property for daycare. I rec'd copies of the determination letters yesterday, interesting that they found the occupant in our residence (who was an employee of the daycare) was in violation of operating without a license but the daycare across the street was not - go figure!
TracyT (Maryland)
Posts: 228
Posted:
Thank you Gloria,

Could you please elaborate on why? For example: is it because of pending legal action or for privacy?

Tracy

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